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Mark Shields's avatar

A) ‘permitting’ states to try to justify any further access to these funds is simply a way to steer them exclusively to red states that find ways to kick some back to T & cronies.

B) How often do we have to see this before we get it? T’s not trying to govern well. Or. at. all. He’s trying to actually destroy government so he can rape everything he covets.

(& Believe him when he says he wants to deport or ‘lock xyz up’. He will try.)

C) saying it is ‘to pay for tax relief’ lends it a rationale and air of legitimacy that is wholly unwarranted and misleading; the purpose is private grifting, graft, and extortion of public assets!

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Adam's avatar

You Mark, have clearly been educated and are therefore ineligible to make comment!

I joke mister.

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Mark Shields's avatar

😉 I represented US abroad most of my career - a privileged education indeed. Clear that T’s ways are much older than civilization.

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Adam's avatar

Agreed. T exhibits more of the deep thinking expressed by "me want, me TAKE" than anything else.

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Katy Bolger's avatar

Re: A above: You nailed it, found the loophole. For MacMahon and Trump, the loophole is God. I wonder if red state governors will have AI draw up a proposal for continuing its education programs. I bet a dollar they will.

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Nancy Hallo MD's avatar

I mean just look at her face! It tells it all. The stuff of nightmares!

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Robot Bender's avatar

Cruella DeVille

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Barbara Laman's avatar

They were funds appropriated by Congress and already spent by the states. Congress must insist that no one person can simply “unappropriate” any funds.

Or. We could unappropriate Congress’s salaries since they’re now irrelevant.

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VALERIE MELUSKEY's avatar

Don't understand how any of this funding is" steered to red states" when Texas, Nebraska, Ohio, Kansas, South Dakota, and Kentucky are shown to lose programs they counted upon.

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Mark Shields's avatar

Wait, watch closely, & learn… (it's not his words, it is his deeds).

(My first year at CDC (80’s) we were told to turn all the public health block grant monies to the states. Majority of states were happy to receive half as much grant for the privilege of not having any oversight regarding use of the monies for public health.)

(Need I add, this decision was pushed by the red states?)

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Hannah Olufs's avatar

You are making false equivalencies.

Kids did generally not do well with online classes. We should be providing a good education to all kids. It doesn't matter where they live. They deserve a chance to learn and thrive, hopefully breaking the cycle of poverty and ignorance.

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Ann Sharon's avatar

This is not the 1980s. Maybe you should watch more closely and learn not to be so patronizing. It is enough to say you expect these to be recreated as block grants for red states.

It is not obvious the game in education is the same as in CDC in the 1980s. The CDC was not on the chopping block 40 yrs ago. This WH has shown no interest in restoring what it destroys.

I’m not genius but if it is a choice between his personal agenda and $$ to the states, trump trumps the states. More to the point, Congress has not created such a block grant program. It would take time and right now they want much larger budget reductions. Direct funding from the dept of education is small. School lunch programs come through HHS funding. The states will take the hit either way.

And spending is up under trump partly due to his goals in other areas. The market may have a much larger say in the matter. Partly because of interest rates which will continue to make payments on the debt increase. In the ‘80s we were coming out of a 20 yr economic roller coaster slump.

The Wall Street Journal says the market is on track to be 1932 all over again. In November Bloomberg said the market ‘boom’ was like 1928 and Hoover. The bond market is still high which keeps interest rates high. The dollar is sinking.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/us-government-spending-has-not-slowed-under-trump-so-far-data-shows/articleshow/118579324.cms?from=mdr

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Mike McCabe's avatar

If the cost of a billionaire getting a 2nd yacht is some kids not getting access to books and camps, you have to do it.

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Adam's avatar

Damn right. That kid could have saved on taxes and got a 2nd yacht too if they'd chosen a rich family to be born to like I did.

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Daniel's avatar

How does one become so wicked????

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Joseph Mangano's avatar

The GOP's war on public education continues.

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Gail Edwards's avatar

Can’t control people if they’re educated.

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Sandra Nicht's avatar

but they are also heavily armed...

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Robot Bender's avatar

THAT they're all educated in...

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Linda's avatar

Educators must inform the families they serve why programs have been cut, who cut the funding, and where the money is going instead. Only when people personally feel the impact of Trump Administration actions will they understand their choices in the next election.

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Judy B's avatar

The children suffer and teachers are also left holing the bag. But of course we have to pay for all of Trump's gilfing trips! He's not about to use his grift to pay for that outlay himself. So frustrating!

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Adam's avatar

Looks like you mixed the words golf and grift together. Quite apropos in my opinion.

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Joe Weicher's avatar

Starting to think that those vaunted “checks and balances” that I learned about in school (more than a few years ago) don’t really amount to much.

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Joan Friedman (MA, from NY)'s avatar

They’re eating the checks. They’re eating the balances.

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Mark Shields's avatar

U.S. respect for rule of law depended on a prevalence of civil ethical conduct that is no longer taught or believed in by a large enough fraction of Americans, to prevail or persist.

It required a critical mass of ‘other-orientation’ found in the ‘great religions’ and secular moral philosophy, which in fact was the predicate of every successful, persisting, human civilization.

Human synergy is the inevitable consequence of the ‘golden rule’. Civilization decay is the inevitable consequence of T-type transactional, vindictive thinking, that began to be honored under Reagan’s cowboy ethos, & the Right's laissez-faire (unregulated) capitalism - which destroyed US markets.

Recovery from population-wide me-ism will take multiple generations of better values inculcation, and, I expect, a long period of hardship.

If it ever returns.

This is my fear, at least.

One can’t recover a ‘rule of law’ democratic society with ‘us vs them’ power politics, NOR by harsher surveillance and policing.

It takes more mutualism and respect and less drive for dominance over ‘the other’.

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Maggie Bennett's avatar

Well said Mark Shields!

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Mark Shields's avatar

Thanks, Maggie Bennett! ;)

And thank you for your service!!

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Adam's avatar

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Maggie Bennett's avatar

No. It is not from the top down. There is rot that needs rooted out, but is everywhere, and often buried deep. It’s in people’s hearts who don’t even know or think about why they hate so much. The factions slither around and infect those unwitting with apathy, laziness, ignorance and fear of what they don’t understand. EDUCATION - and not solely “formal” education - and open minds is what is sorely needed so that all people can smell and identify the rot underneath before they listen to and elevate lying sleazeballs to positions of power over themselves.

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Adam's avatar

Hello Maggie. Agreed. You are correct in your assertion that the rot is distributed throughout. Thank you for sharing your nuanced observation.

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Maggie Bennett's avatar

I guess I did just kind of repeat what Mark said, didn’t I? And not as well. Should have read it more thoroughly! And I do understand that many of your comments have been tongue-in-cheek. We need a little of that in order to deal with this serious craziness!

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Adam's avatar

This is my contribution to our forum. To find some humor in our shared circumstances. I am a former US Marine and double lung transplat recipient/survivor. I'll joke my way through anything and I always kept my team laughing no matter how much "bleep" we were in!

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Joyce's avatar

I don't know, Maggie...I rather appreciated your visual and visceral description; it will stick with me now.

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Robert's avatar

It's a funny thought that none of this would be possible without Murdoch. He continues, well into his 9th decade, to sow hatred and division, and essentially rule over at least three nations. Let me apologise on behalf of Australia for inflicting him on you. It's actually astounding to me that Americans (knowing what I know of them) would allow their country to be an Australian billionaire's simpering whelp. But, I guess, truly, far stranger things have now happened.

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Zoe's avatar

Will people ever stop voting republican? Now Democrats have to make this repeal known with billboards across USA reading: Republicans are taking your children’s money - denying them a prosperous future!

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Becky Daiss's avatar

Linda McMahon is worth about $3 billion but that's clearly not enough. She is so in need of more money that she'll cut education funds for literacy and tutoring programs updating/ repairing school buildings etc., to free up funds for a tax cut for herself and other hoarders of wealth like her. Education must suffer to feed her addiction.

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Katy Bolger's avatar

It seems that all of the programs that will be cut are low hanging fruit, meant for the poorer districts with fewer resources and lesser trained teachers. Of course they are taking from the poor, duh. (I got distracted for a moment thinking about folding chairs flying through the air when I got my wrestling ring and classroom conflated. My bad.)

Taking away those summer programs is going to hurt. So many parents count on the security of summer school and its educational and nutritional benefits, to get through long months of no child care.

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SeekingReason's avatar

Classic Fascism. Educated people can figure out who the Cons are. Of course they want to remove funds.

And with all their multi billionaires strutting around, it beyond disgraceful.

It appears that ONLY the people will remove him. They always hope for violence too. They need an excuse. But there are too many people being affected negatively. The trump cult will end badly for them.

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Robot Bender's avatar

And that is why those of us who know and remember must ensure the next generation understands the who, how, and why of what's happening.

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Adam's avatar

Those taxes aren't going to cut themselves people!

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Maggie Bennett's avatar

Another one of Drumpf’s picks that is completely antithetical to the position. A bunch of traitorous con-people.

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Adam W. Barney's avatar

Kids are the future. Its that simple. And why this is so sad. 🥺

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Katie Galvin's avatar

Btw, I tried to share this post to Facebook and there's a mysterious error which won't allow it. I tried to directly share it, then share the link and neither worked.

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