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Joseph Mangano's avatar

Seemingly every facet of our lives now involves an entreaty to start or continue gambling. That CNN and CNBC are opaque about their relationship with Kalshi is no wonder. If I could be viewed as shilling for a company that preys on vulnerable people, I'd probably want to obfuscate that notion, too.

Karen Q's avatar

“Seemingly every facet of our lives now involves an entreaty to start or continue gambling”

💯🎯. They’ve taken and misused our tax dollars and now they want us to empty our actual wallets. 🤬

BTAM Master's avatar

Thank you PI documenting that (again) we cannot trust the USA mainstream media.

We currently rely on PBS/NPR and The Guardian as a MSM sources; PBS is in financial trouble and will hopefully outlive the current administration and then be resuscitated.

Good luck to all of us!

PS I don't follow the prediction markets...what were the odds that Trump would taint The World Cup?

Anne Smith's avatar

I'm hoping the coaches decide not to play Balogun

BTAM Master's avatar

And that would be the end of the coaches' careers and/or Balogun's career...and they'd need body guards against the wackos trying to kill them.

Either way: congratulations Donald...you've successfully tainted the World Cup and destroyed a great player's life.

foofaraw & Chiquita(ARF!)'s avatar

Respectfully,

Studies have shown that those watching Fox News(sic) exclusively know less about current events that those who see no news at all.

I suspect we will still learn about murders of innocent American protesters on progressive sites, while Fox tends to ignore that sort of potential "anti-Trump" stories entirely.

I'll take my chances. It's certainly not the Walter Cronkite I remember, but I'd still prefer a ballet slipper on the back of my neck to a "nazi jackboot".

Cathy's avatar

More craptastic news. The Epstein Class is determined to empty every pocket in America and beyond. I am already boycotting CNN and CNBC but I shall continue to mock their perfidy.

Mari Wilson's avatar

I left cable news long ago. This is absolutely shameful.

Kathleen Dintaman's avatar

Prediction markets are not polls. CNBC, CNN and Kalshi are wrong to present them as such.

Linda Slater's avatar

These gambling markets have little connection to reality. But my question is why would any so called adult put any trust in the collection of gullible people’s biases , irrational hope and ignorance?

Frau Katze's avatar

Not to mention insider betting.

Linda Slater's avatar

Isn't that what it was set up to be? A way for the insiders to rip off the fools who pay to get ripped off by the ones "in the know"?

Frau Katze's avatar

I don’t know for sure what they were thinking but if they didn’t consider it, they were not too bright.

mark's avatar

These " prediction markets" are just electronic Fortune-telling fraud. They are using an algorithm to read the room to find people who can be fleeced. It is just a way for those who know what will happen to cash in on that knowledge.

Mike D.'s avatar

No surprise! Predictions, gambling, "news" in Trump world.

Larry Carr (autocarr)'s avatar

Good reporting: “ Kalshi’s political markets, which dominate the coverage on CNN and are featured prominently on CNBC, are also the least accurate…. — Kalshi’s political markets “compressed toward 50%,” meaning they systematically overvalue longshots and undervalue favorites” … well let’s bet on the news—what’s the odds on today’s news…

—all the “news?” that fits…

Katy Bolger's avatar

This is insane. These two networks and their ridiculous business segments are like giant pinball machines. Sure, there are some pinball wizards out there making things look respectable but for the most part, for the viewer, represented by the little ball getting whacked around the table, the whole thing is presented as a game. How can anything they say be believed when it is all predicated on chance - not even a good lie. Or perhaps the lies are the odds. As long as you know where the lying is coming from, you have a shot. If you are doing the lying, you are the winner, winner chicken dinner. And no one goes home in a limousine.

Adam's avatar

It stops being a game to the folks who lost their money!

Jessica's avatar

It also frustrates me because of the profile of persons likely to use Kalshi, this all feels like another way to center white male perspectives as the only ones that matter.

Penny P's avatar

Worse than that: the perspective of white male individuals who lack the intelligence to realize that betting/"prediction markets" are a losing game. Kalshi's own website says that unprofitable users outnumber profitable ones by nearly three to one.

Ken's avatar

Millions of people might not be dead from current design of Social Security if they had been allowed to have Social Security Retirement Accounts. They were denied Liberty and Freedom. Life involves risk.

Integrity not existing in journalism is not a new things. Facts matter and many journalists do not care.

When people refuse to vote for competent people, bad things happen. My best friend was killed by a drunk driver in 1980 because NH state government which makes a great deal of money from selling alcohol in its stores refuses to spend enough on local police, state police, treatment of alcohol addiction, treatment of drug addiction.

Advocates want more money from liquor sales to treat addiction

By DAVE SOLOMON New Hampshire Union Leader Nov 18, 2014

https://www.unionleader.com/news/politics/state/advocates-want-more-money-from-liquor-sales-to-treat-addiction/article_d3b4be33-b422-5d59-9028-7

"Advocates for drug and alcohol treatment want to see more profit from state liquor stores go toward helping alcoholics and drugs addicts in New Hampshire, and they say state law is on their side.

Armed with a new study that points to the devastating economic effects of addiction, officials at New Futures say they will resume their push to fully implement a state law, passed in 2001, that dedicates 5 percent of gross profits from the New Hampshire Liquor Commission to treatment programs.

The state legislature has done an end-run around the law every year since it was passed, according to Tricia Lucas, advocacy director at New Futures, the statewide non-profit dedicated to reducing alcohol and drug problems in the Granite State.

If the law in question, RSA 176:16, section III, had been enforced in the current budget, Lucas points out, the formula would have produced $8.5 million for treatment and rehabilitation programs, rather than the $1.8 million in the Department of Health and Human Services budget.

Faced with competing needs, lawmakers have consistently suspended RSA 176 and instead authorized a much smaller allocation to DHHS for substance abuse programs."

But Tym Rourke, chair of the Governor’s Commission on Substance Abuse and Prevention, thinks the tide may be turning, with the state in the middle of a well-documented addiction crisis that is affecting public safety and the economy.

“We now have concrete economic data that really speaks to the scale of the issue and how deeply it is impacting our economy,” said Rourke, referring to the study released today.

“And it’s being released under the landscape of a very significant, very visible heroin and opium epidemic in our state, which is hard to deny,” he added.

The 45-page analysis by economist Brian Gottlob of PolEcon Research paints a picture of the problem in painstaking detail. Using data from a variety of sources, he makes the case that alcohol and drug abuse cost the state’s economy more than $1.8 billion in lost productivity, law enforcement, medical expense and slower economic growth.

And that doesn’t even count the impact of higher mortality rates from overdoses.

The report, titled “The Corrosive Effects of Alcohol and Drug Misuse on NH’s Workforce and Economy,” hammers home the point that investment in recovery and rehabilitation is not just a matter of social welfare; it’s an economic imperative."

“As with every budget, there are many shared priorities that we must protect while living within our means,” said William Hinkle."

Many teens and others died from drug overdoses because State government refused to enforce the law.

NH's state legislature is the third worst State legislature in our Republic. The morons in the state legislature do not require people to have auto insurance until after they cause an accident. These morons do not have the mental capacity to understand if a girl is paralyzed while walking to school by a driver who does not have auto insurance and little in assets who dies in the car accident will not get any help from the driver.

People in our country go out of their way every day to ruin the lives of others and murdering people not caring about the consequences of their actions while DENYING PEOPLE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.

Over 95 percent of our people are sheep for slaughter who do not care at all about our soldiers, Veterans, and their families and are clueless dealing with Bill of Rights and other parts of Constitution. I think people who survived World War 2 would be disgusted by most people living in the USA today.

Ask yourself - Are you part of the problem?

Sincerely,

Kenneth Scot Stremsky

187 Poplar Street

Manchester, NH 03104

603-647-5898

Kathleen Weber's avatar

Typo: Trump I tried to take over Greenland in his second term, not his first term.

Joanna M's avatar

I would be interested in the demographics of who is betting on these, too. I would guess that there's a very specific sub-segment who choose to invest in these. It's like taking the polls that require you to contribute to the political party seriously. 🙄

Robyn Boyer's avatar

You know democracy and maybe the country too, are headed for the ditch when a good chunk of the population spends hard earned money on predicting any and everything. It reflects a lost and stumbling people, made numb by the last ten years, where Kalshi, et al. are able to grow and flourish. Not sure how to curb that appetite or that regulation will help...but we surely must find a better way to deal with our angst than that.

laurie miller's avatar

They are all blindly supporting terrorism. and child murder.

There are no right wing intellectuals and the Barrie Weiss group are no exception.

She choses people who will lie on her behalf, to her listeners, not a good look,

And she supports child murder on a massive scale , not a good look for a lesbian.

And when these listeners understand, It'll take some a while to get there, but they will.

She will be damaged goods. Permanently.

Best advise is to hunt her down, digitaly, constantly , and drive her mad.

lauriemillerjade.com

Mari Wilson's avatar

Truth, Laurie. She’s a full on Zionist just like her evil in chief scumbag, Larry Ellison. And David, too of course. These people are absolutely soulless.

Mary Ellen Griffin's avatar

The grift is incredible. I don't watch TV "news," but sadly, a large proportion of voters do.

Greg Kapphahn's avatar

Thanks, Judd and Aaron for bringing this forward!

So...

If I really want something to happen and I have a fair amount of money to throw around, I can just make big bets in favor of that thing happening on Kalshi, and CNN and CNBC will dutifully report that it has become far more likely that that thing will happen.

Rather than seeking to do statistically valid surveys, they now just lean on the prediction markets to portray public opinion, even though the "public opinion" those markets portray is for sale to the highest bidder.

This renders the predictions on Kalshi and other prediction markets completely bogus when it comes to tracking public opinion. All they really track is who has the money to place bets which make what they want to happen seem more likely. For a few bucks, those with money can now shape what is portrayed to be public opinion in any way they like. A big bet can make something appear popular which 99% of the general public hates.

I guess I miss the days when accuracy, honesty, and integrity figured into the news. I, too rely on Public Media which is (mostly) better. In a way, I think their loss of public funding has freed them up to stop kissing political backsides in order to try to keep their funding (even though they are still doing so, to some extent, especially at the national level).