These nazi clowns have every right to spew as much hate as they want, but when they find jobs hard to come by once they graduate, they should not go whining about discrimination...which they will do...and be amplified by right wing media. We, as a society, need to shove them all back under the rocks form which they slithered...
Perhaps, but let's remember, Trump gives them permission to be their worst selves so if they are concealing it, it may be because they know they will need jobs and partners in the future who would be repelled by overt racism and misogyny.
Nazis? and/or the blond beauty queens who love them?
I guess the Evas are looking for their Adolphs. I am still shocked that ANYONE in America is aligned with Nazis. White supremacy, homegrown KKK shit, good ole boys and their Friday night rituals, sure. Always been a few of those around. We did own slaves for hundreds of years so, bad blood. But Nazis!?!?! I have a difficult time. In high school we are taught Nazis are the bad guys...unless, at home, you are taught Jews are the bad guys, which for thousands of years, there has been a curriculum to that effect. But in America!?!?!? In public? As the head of a student political organization?
Fn Twump and his band of merry racists whose disdain for Jews, blacks, browns and women have opened a floodgate of hatred to the lonely, disaffected boys and men with confusing and lonely internet lives. In America.
Let's see if Adolph comes back as a baby name; there are currently ~five babies a year given that name in America.
I once knew a brother named Adolph. Very cool brother who'd be in his late 60's now. Laid back, humble and extremely good in his chosen field. Wtf were his parents thinking?
The human brain typically reaches full maturity between the mid-20s and early 30s. While the brain reaches its maximum size around age 6, the prefrontal cortex—the area responsible for planning, decision-making, and impulse control—does not finish developing until roughly age 25, with some structural refinement continuing until around age 30.
Frontal Lobe Development: The brain matures from back to front, making the frontal lobe one of the last areas to fully mature. Recent research suggests structural changes and "neural wiring" continue, with significant stabilization not occurring until the early thirties.
Apparently Kai is a late developer and as such should not be entrusted with positions of responsibility including the keys to any car. Revoke this kid's drivers license.
Thanks for informing us about the rise of the Nazis on American university campuses. I cannot help but feel that the standards for admission should include some ethics.
They do have to rely on essays submitted by the applicant. If their Nazi inclinations are not shared (hidden) or perhaps not fully developed, they might not be revealed in an eager self-promoting essay.
When will people come to terms with the folly and danger of belief in a mystical, brutal, capricious, uncaring man in the sky that removes us from managing our own affairs, caring for our fellows and neighbours, building a peaceful society that we can trust. Christianity is not love - there’s too much evidence that it is not. It allows for prejudice, hate, intolerance in the name of this non-existent god. Get over it. We’re alone on this planet, damned lucky and now get on with it in harmony. It’s better than hate.
More evidence than ever that this is the direction in which the GOP is going. Moderate Republicans are on the outside looking in. It's also yet another reminder that the bigotry of yesterday isn't guaranteed to die out with successive generations. The fight continues.
Kai is a Mormon. The relationship between Black people and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) has historically included exclusion and discrimination. From the mid-1800s until 1978, the church banned men of Black African descent from the priesthood and all members from temple ordinances, while supporting racial segregation. Latter-day Saints (Mormons) show high levels of support for Christian Nationalist ideas.
Partisan Alignment according to PEW, studies show Mormons are consistently more Republican and conservative than the general public, and often to the right of evangelicals.
I have studied Mormonism in depth. All your comments are interesting. Mormonism includes a variety of people. However, right wing thinking is very common among Mormon believers. Mormonism is a patriarchal religion. Patriarchy is a social, legal, and cultural system in which men hold primary power, dominate roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, and control over property. It translates to "rule of the father" and often includes hierarchical structures where men’s power is upheld as superior to women and girls. Pew research states, “Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) are among the most heavily Republican-leaning religious groups in the U.S., with roughly 60–70% identifying as GOP,. They are generally very conservative on social issues like marriage and abortion, while often emphasizing constitutionalism and fiscal conservatism.”
These are not typical remarks by any Mormon I’ve known. Yes, the Mormons have beliefs that fall in the scope of christian nationalism. That the Constitution is inspired by god for one. Different communities are different.
According to research there is much less christian nationalism among Mormons in Utah than other red states. I had a terrific intern who spent the summer in our city - working on women’s issues. University of Utah has a foundation that pays room and board for student interns to expand their experiences.
I’m not certain students there would agree that it’s a hot pocket of racism. Yes, there were racist believes in the church. It has worked very hard to overcome much of that.
Then there is the case of Melisa Haris-Perry. I have no clue what she was thinking - except that she is no longer a practicing member of the Latter-day Saints.
Thanks for the links, Ann. However, I do take issue with the LDS church statement; “The Book of Mormon states, “black and white, bond and free, male and female; … all are alike unto God” (2 Nephi 26:33). This is the Church’s official teaching.” As a patriarchal organization, I’m not sure that men and women are actually considered all alike unto God if that implies they are equal. Which then makes me wonder if black and white are thought to be equal. But certainly better than their racist past.
You can find similar histories in most predominant Christian religions in the US. My personal opinion is that how religions view & treat people is influenced by the society around them. That would account for significantly less extremism where there is a greater concentration of LDS members.
I grew up in Michigan. Mitt Romney’s father was governor in the 1960s. George Romney was well respected; thought of as a moderate & champion of Civil Rights. That was before the doctrine changed.
The Southern Baptists Conference split from the Northern Baptists in 1845 over slavery & declared slavery was ordained by god. It became the largest Protestant denomination in the US. It did issue an apology in 1995. It is a patriarchal organization. The Methodist church had a similar split over slavery the year before, 1844. The Catholic Church, largest Christian denomination in the US, had only 200 Black priests in the US during the 60s-70s. I’d say it’s a patriarchal organization.
I’m plenty old enough to remember when women did not have the right to choose any vocation they wanted; to obtain credit without a husband or male’s permission & were excluded from medical trials which means our medical treatment was based on data from males.
Members of churches that assigned roles based on gender do not see that as inequality or different in value. To them it is complementarianism - each role complements the other - based on biblical instruction. Considering how deeply embedded gender roles have been in society I don’t find it surprising.
Interesting. In my last job, I worked along side a Haitian woman who was a member of the local LDS church and discovered that others in Haitian community were also members. I guess the LDS missions in Haiti were at least somewhat successful. Maybe they have changed their discriminatory ways. Hope so.
Yes they have been working on this for decades. That’s why her comment said until 1978. Different communities have different influences. Where there is the largest concentration of Mormons there is much less ‘christian nationalism’ and racism. As for the priesthood, Black priests in the Catholic Church in the 1960s-70s were far and few between. Less than 200 in the US. I believe if we began scratching the surface we would find a lot of similar disparities among many religious organizations.
This is the church’s statement in response to an article by WaPo about a member’s bad behavior.
Firstly, I didn't realize that trump and epstein were gay men. Secondly, if someone isn't a racist, bigot, they have no place in the republican party. GOP, maga, American fascism is taking root, but hopefully those roots rot before they spread further.
Without excusing or condoning this bigot in any way, it seems to me worth pointing out an apparent oversight in this article. You assert that Schwemmer's post "suggest[s] that Jewish people are 'delusional cosplayers'" even though the post clearly refers to the state of Israel and makes no explicit reference to Jewish people. I raise this because too often the claim is made that Jewish identity and Zionism are equivalent, and/or that Israel somehow represents worldwide Jewry, when in fact both of these are incorrect, and this distinction is extremely important.
Yes! Israel does not represent my Jewish family members, though they are naturally conflicted. The last remaining Holocaust survivors in the family have died this year. They will never forget, but Israel's warmongering is not supported.
Note: Kai Schwemmer is a Morman. Referring to him solely as "a Christian," leaves out a vital piece of information. The press made the same error in the coverage of the young man in Minnesota who posted widely on social media what he claimed was video of fraud at daycare centers run by people of Somali heritage. He is also a Morman, and one who, like Kai, had recently returned from two-year mandatory mission service. Both spout racial and misogynistic language. Is this their Republican or their religious identity, or both? Do they represent a trend in their church such as we have seen among those who call themselves Christian nationalists?
The folks around here (Southeast) who call themselves "Christian" are choosy, and do not regard Mormons as Christians. Their cult is narrow and so maybe the silos within the Christian Nationalism cult will help bring its downfall. 🤞
These nazi clowns have every right to spew as much hate as they want, but when they find jobs hard to come by once they graduate, they should not go whining about discrimination...which they will do...and be amplified by right wing media. We, as a society, need to shove them all back under the rocks form which they slithered...
Kai's conduct makes me wonder if *all* gung-ho young Republicans are as racist and misogynistic. Or maybe they are, but are better at concealing it?
Perhaps, but let's remember, Trump gives them permission to be their worst selves so if they are concealing it, it may be because they know they will need jobs and partners in the future who would be repelled by overt racism and misogyny.
Or maybe they will all find their blond beauty queens like Erika. They can dream can’t they?
There are more of them out there than we care to admit...
Nazis? and/or the blond beauty queens who love them?
I guess the Evas are looking for their Adolphs. I am still shocked that ANYONE in America is aligned with Nazis. White supremacy, homegrown KKK shit, good ole boys and their Friday night rituals, sure. Always been a few of those around. We did own slaves for hundreds of years so, bad blood. But Nazis!?!?! I have a difficult time. In high school we are taught Nazis are the bad guys...unless, at home, you are taught Jews are the bad guys, which for thousands of years, there has been a curriculum to that effect. But in America!?!?!? In public? As the head of a student political organization?
Fn Twump and his band of merry racists whose disdain for Jews, blacks, browns and women have opened a floodgate of hatred to the lonely, disaffected boys and men with confusing and lonely internet lives. In America.
Let's see if Adolph comes back as a baby name; there are currently ~five babies a year given that name in America.
I once knew a brother named Adolph. Very cool brother who'd be in his late 60's now. Laid back, humble and extremely good in his chosen field. Wtf were his parents thinking?
Oh ffs. So tired of these incels.
The human brain typically reaches full maturity between the mid-20s and early 30s. While the brain reaches its maximum size around age 6, the prefrontal cortex—the area responsible for planning, decision-making, and impulse control—does not finish developing until roughly age 25, with some structural refinement continuing until around age 30.
Frontal Lobe Development: The brain matures from back to front, making the frontal lobe one of the last areas to fully mature. Recent research suggests structural changes and "neural wiring" continue, with significant stabilization not occurring until the early thirties.
Apparently Kai is a late developer and as such should not be entrusted with positions of responsibility including the keys to any car. Revoke this kid's drivers license.
Thanks for informing us about the rise of the Nazis on American university campuses. I cannot help but feel that the standards for admission should include some ethics.
I actually thought they did (include ethics)!?
They do have to rely on essays submitted by the applicant. If their Nazi inclinations are not shared (hidden) or perhaps not fully developed, they might not be revealed in an eager self-promoting essay.
Makse sense. Thanks.
Another that needs canceling immediately!!! We don’t need this hate and misogyny!!!!😡
This is our scary future...if we don't stop it. It doesn't matter how we got here. It matters how we will act to prevent it from going further.
Well, this is depressing. Awful.
When will people come to terms with the folly and danger of belief in a mystical, brutal, capricious, uncaring man in the sky that removes us from managing our own affairs, caring for our fellows and neighbours, building a peaceful society that we can trust. Christianity is not love - there’s too much evidence that it is not. It allows for prejudice, hate, intolerance in the name of this non-existent god. Get over it. We’re alone on this planet, damned lucky and now get on with it in harmony. It’s better than hate.
God is convenient. Organized religion is a farce and dangerous.
"Organized religion is a farce and dangerous."
Yes, yes, one hundred thousand times, YES!!! Ever seen Kenneth Copeland or Joel Olsteen up close and personal? Skinwalkers. Demons wearing human skin.
I stay away from religious fanatics as far as fn possible but I get your meaning.
More evidence than ever that this is the direction in which the GOP is going. Moderate Republicans are on the outside looking in. It's also yet another reminder that the bigotry of yesterday isn't guaranteed to die out with successive generations. The fight continues.
I think you have to tell the Supreme Court!
Kai is a Mormon. The relationship between Black people and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) has historically included exclusion and discrimination. From the mid-1800s until 1978, the church banned men of Black African descent from the priesthood and all members from temple ordinances, while supporting racial segregation. Latter-day Saints (Mormons) show high levels of support for Christian Nationalist ideas.
Partisan Alignment according to PEW, studies show Mormons are consistently more Republican and conservative than the general public, and often to the right of evangelicals.
I have studied Mormonism in depth. All your comments are interesting. Mormonism includes a variety of people. However, right wing thinking is very common among Mormon believers. Mormonism is a patriarchal religion. Patriarchy is a social, legal, and cultural system in which men hold primary power, dominate roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, and control over property. It translates to "rule of the father" and often includes hierarchical structures where men’s power is upheld as superior to women and girls. Pew research states, “Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) are among the most heavily Republican-leaning religious groups in the U.S., with roughly 60–70% identifying as GOP,. They are generally very conservative on social issues like marriage and abortion, while often emphasizing constitutionalism and fiscal conservatism.”
These are not typical remarks by any Mormon I’ve known. Yes, the Mormons have beliefs that fall in the scope of christian nationalism. That the Constitution is inspired by god for one. Different communities are different.
According to research there is much less christian nationalism among Mormons in Utah than other red states. I had a terrific intern who spent the summer in our city - working on women’s issues. University of Utah has a foundation that pays room and board for student interns to expand their experiences.
I’m not certain students there would agree that it’s a hot pocket of racism. Yes, there were racist believes in the church. It has worked very hard to overcome much of that.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39811783/utah-women-basketball-coach-lynne-roberts-says-team-experienced-racial-hate-crimes-hotel-stay-ncaa-tournament
Then there is the case of Melisa Haris-Perry. I have no clue what she was thinking - except that she is no longer a practicing member of the Latter-day Saints.
https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/31/258680043/msnbc-host-apologizes-for-comments-on-mitt-romneys-grandson
Thanks for the links, Ann. However, I do take issue with the LDS church statement; “The Book of Mormon states, “black and white, bond and free, male and female; … all are alike unto God” (2 Nephi 26:33). This is the Church’s official teaching.” As a patriarchal organization, I’m not sure that men and women are actually considered all alike unto God if that implies they are equal. Which then makes me wonder if black and white are thought to be equal. But certainly better than their racist past.
You can find similar histories in most predominant Christian religions in the US. My personal opinion is that how religions view & treat people is influenced by the society around them. That would account for significantly less extremism where there is a greater concentration of LDS members.
I grew up in Michigan. Mitt Romney’s father was governor in the 1960s. George Romney was well respected; thought of as a moderate & champion of Civil Rights. That was before the doctrine changed.
The Southern Baptists Conference split from the Northern Baptists in 1845 over slavery & declared slavery was ordained by god. It became the largest Protestant denomination in the US. It did issue an apology in 1995. It is a patriarchal organization. The Methodist church had a similar split over slavery the year before, 1844. The Catholic Church, largest Christian denomination in the US, had only 200 Black priests in the US during the 60s-70s. I’d say it’s a patriarchal organization.
I’m plenty old enough to remember when women did not have the right to choose any vocation they wanted; to obtain credit without a husband or male’s permission & were excluded from medical trials which means our medical treatment was based on data from males.
Members of churches that assigned roles based on gender do not see that as inequality or different in value. To them it is complementarianism - each role complements the other - based on biblical instruction. Considering how deeply embedded gender roles have been in society I don’t find it surprising.
Interesting. In my last job, I worked along side a Haitian woman who was a member of the local LDS church and discovered that others in Haitian community were also members. I guess the LDS missions in Haiti were at least somewhat successful. Maybe they have changed their discriminatory ways. Hope so.
Yes they have been working on this for decades. That’s why her comment said until 1978. Different communities have different influences. Where there is the largest concentration of Mormons there is much less ‘christian nationalism’ and racism. As for the priesthood, Black priests in the Catholic Church in the 1960s-70s were far and few between. Less than 200 in the US. I believe if we began scratching the surface we would find a lot of similar disparities among many religious organizations.
This is the church’s statement in response to an article by WaPo about a member’s bad behavior.
• https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/racial-remarks-in-washington-post-article
A statement regarding the church’s position on racism.
• https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/race-church
And in some ways more interesting a story from in real life. I remember when this happened.
• https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39811783/utah-women-basketball-coach-lynne-roberts-says-team-experienced-racial-hate-crimes-hotel-stay-ncaa-tournament
Anyone calling themselves a republican today is a traitor and criminal supporter.
Such good journalism here. He tried to hide his past posts but his own replies give him away. Pathetic racist goon
Firstly, I didn't realize that trump and epstein were gay men. Secondly, if someone isn't a racist, bigot, they have no place in the republican party. GOP, maga, American fascism is taking root, but hopefully those roots rot before they spread further.
He's still one of the nicer republicans.
Without excusing or condoning this bigot in any way, it seems to me worth pointing out an apparent oversight in this article. You assert that Schwemmer's post "suggest[s] that Jewish people are 'delusional cosplayers'" even though the post clearly refers to the state of Israel and makes no explicit reference to Jewish people. I raise this because too often the claim is made that Jewish identity and Zionism are equivalent, and/or that Israel somehow represents worldwide Jewry, when in fact both of these are incorrect, and this distinction is extremely important.
Yes! Israel does not represent my Jewish family members, though they are naturally conflicted. The last remaining Holocaust survivors in the family have died this year. They will never forget, but Israel's warmongering is not supported.
Note: Kai Schwemmer is a Morman. Referring to him solely as "a Christian," leaves out a vital piece of information. The press made the same error in the coverage of the young man in Minnesota who posted widely on social media what he claimed was video of fraud at daycare centers run by people of Somali heritage. He is also a Morman, and one who, like Kai, had recently returned from two-year mandatory mission service. Both spout racial and misogynistic language. Is this their Republican or their religious identity, or both? Do they represent a trend in their church such as we have seen among those who call themselves Christian nationalists?
The folks around here (Southeast) who call themselves "Christian" are choosy, and do not regard Mormons as Christians. Their cult is narrow and so maybe the silos within the Christian Nationalism cult will help bring its downfall. 🤞