Or shame on them anyway. I have family who have NOTHING to say about their vote for chaos now but at the time, they claimed they were voting to "end the madness!"
As a person who serves the institutional church (religion) and finds beauty in my relationships in the church with God Jesus and humanity I will simply ask that your painting brush of assumptions and judgements of its value be not so wide. The Queens real estate mob boss sundowning as President and his self empretzeling sycophants are the end game of 80 years of the dumbing down of America and the religious rights marriage to Reaganism and Reagonomics. These authoritarian Christofascists do not represent the best of humanity nor Jesus good news. Believe me, I find them offensive too. Please do not put me in the same category with their bastardized faith.
I’m not saying all Christians are bad. Most of them are very good people. The problem is that there is no evidence (0 proof) that any God exists. It’s a scam. That’s all I’m saying.
Plus, I also have to add that religion is the root cause of most of the wars on this planet and my belief is that if we were 90% % atheist and believed in facts and science, we could be better caretakers of this planet and that’s what this planet needs. This is our only home and planet in the vastness of the known universe and it’s in serious trouble right now. Unless we address global warming we may lose it.
And later, if there turns out there is a god, I think that’s what he would want.
Agree with you that Trump is indisputably a charlatan. Religious faith is a different matter… History demonstrates that centuries of Catholic & Christian institutional corruption have existed side-by-side with powerful humanity and faith witness. For good and for ill, all institutions reflect the character of those who control them. Peace ☮️🌻
Discovering that trump lies is as like discovering that the sky is blue. Talk about the 77 million stupid people who voted for him, they are the threat to democracy. The 32 % who voted for trump don't read what you write. The 32% who voted for Harris already know he lies. The 36% who didn't vote need to be educated about the suffering they are experiencing is the result of letting trump back into the white house. Why didn't 85 million people not vote in 2024?
You have to be a lame brain to believe what Republicons tell you, especially the biggest liar of all time. And, that’s what we have here in the US, idiots aplenty.
The shock is not that Trump hasn’t delivered on promises. The shock is that there is still about 40% of the electorate that support a man so clearly inept, corrupt, selfish and utterly incompetent. How could such a person have credibly been expected to deliver? Go figure. Speaks volumes on the equal incompetence and unreliable intelligence of so many citizens.
A ticket a tasket a basket full of deplorables. We can call magats voters lame brains, incompetent, unintelligent, threat to democracy, idiots: a lady calls them a basket of deplorables and a lady never lies.
Like when it is irrelevant to the goal(s) of the campaign. Criticizing voters is a no-no. Kissing off voters with insults leaves a lasting legacy. Bill Clinton won many of those states. Some 2x. Those states are now ruby red. In the past 2 elections those words were not forgotten. They were attached to other Dems.
So how was that remark helpful? Oh, and the one about we’re going to elimination your (coal miner) jobs? All I see is us forgotten insulting remarks that remain obstacles to winning people over.
The unstable ungenius who pledged to cut gas prices in half has, in some parts of the country, caused them to double. Here in Central New York they have jumped by over $1/gallon in the last two weeks. All hail Trump! The economic savior we have been waiting for!!! /s
Here in Annapolis, MD, gas prices all over yesterday were above $4, except for the one place on Forest Dr that’s cash-only. Young working families with jobs that require commuting are going to really be feeling it. Not to mention how those fuel costs impact the prices of everything else!
Let me see. If gas was supposed to be $1.50 a gallon and it's now closer to $4.50 a gallon doesn't that mean trump was off by only 200%? Those trump gas (no pun intended) lies fit well with his no new wars rants. But the price of eggs. And dems couldn't beat that bloated, lying, bag of trash. Amazing... I am sure the polymarketsare going wild today in anticipation of trum's blithering idiot Iran remarks tonight. I won't be watching...
Right...this is the part of the story that gets lost. Trump made many, many pledges. Some of them run contrary to each other. He didin't keep his promise to cut gas prices, but he did keep his promise to make his friends rich, and his friends are the ones lending him money to build his ballroom, and build a base for cryptocurrency, and invest in his soon coming Middle East property development.
He no longer needs his "base", so he no longer even thinks about them.
And those where if the big donors gave enough $$ they would have a say in policies, get access to the WH & an easy path to permit approvals. Plus opening public lands to private interests.
Give me news I can use. Hearing details of one of Trump's lies isn't enough.
I could use some outline of a plan on how to communicate this to Trump supporters in a way that breaks through to peel them away. And to know whether this is the issue that's worth pressing, because it might cost $$$$ to push the message to them.
What I'd really like to know is this -- what sustains the 30% favorable belief in this president in the face of everything? Is it regular propaganda refreshing, such as Fox News? It some deeply internalized belief or identity? Or what? Without knowing what drives it, how can we work to address it?
So.... Why the continued support in face of obvious lies and harmful actions? What's the psychological basis? What are best theoretical ways to address that? What's the current best topic to apply this to? And if there are various approaches, what's the one best suited to a distributed network of volunteers spending time and effort but few dollars? Then how to get this plan out to enough if us to use?
From personal experience, I was at the hair salon recently where the husband was seated waiting for his wife. I’ve known these people for years and I also know that the husband is a die-hard republican/Trump supporter. I always avoid any discussion of politics with other customers so as not to upset the salons’ owner. I couldn’t help myself recently and came right out and asked him if any of the accusations in the Epstein files against Trump bothered him. He repeated “Democrat hoax” oh really I said. Then he said what about Clinton? I said I don’t care who is in it, but anyone convicted of rape and child abuse should go to prison. He said well you love your 401k don’t you? (I don’t have a 401k) but I answered I’d rather take a hit in the stock market and have an honest, empathetic and ethical person as President than this guy. He shook his head. I said do you believe that Biden won the Presidency and he said no. “Millions of illegals voted” I said Dan, you really believe that? He said yes. I told him there is so little voter fraud that it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. I said even the Heritage Foundation admits no voter fraud.He shook his head. I said ok Dan. Isn’t it crazy how 2 people like us can look at the same picture and see 2 different things? He said yeah it is crazy. I ended the conversation with well can we least agree that today the sky is blue and it’s damn cold outside? He said yes. This is what we are dealing with. It’s cult-like and it’s difficult to get one out of the cult.
Dan sounds like a lot of people I know. They believe all of Trump's lies and committ themselves completely, heart and soul, to his cult. Facts are irrelevant.
I tell myself that someday reality will catch up with them. Reality has a way of doing that. It persists over time. Lies disintegrate.
We don’t need the 30% who still approve of him. We need the persuadables & new voters. Independents & young people who are fed up. We need to know their main issues & how the Dems will address them.
The Economist does a weekly update on his approval with a state map which toggles between now & 2024 election timeframe. For some time he’s been underwater on all the issues & with all demographics. In 2024 he won 30 states - many marginally. For months his approval rating was underwater water in 28-30 states. Now he’s only above water in 6. https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
This doesn’t automatically translate into Dem wins, but it does pave the way.
I’ll just add that his approval numbers are on par with the % of Republicans who believe the moon landing was a hoax (36%). For one thing, angry people who have grievances & don’t trust government turn to bizarre explanations &/or look for someone to save them. Covid ignited a lot of chaos, angst & distrust. It is a global issue. One thing Donnie did by being such an a-hole to our allies was blunt some of the rightwing growth in their countries. But it is a historical phenomenon that in the aftermath of such disruptions particularly with economic stresses people turn “strongmen”.
*We* don't make a lot of money when oil prices rise. Big Oil does. Spare us the trickle-down nonsense, Mr. President.
Exactly. And still, too many people give that liar a pass.
Wait. Mr. President? Shouldn't that be Mr. Ahole?
Americans could have chosen a different path, instead a segment of the American populace chose the sociopath. Again.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Or shame on them anyway. I have family who have NOTHING to say about their vote for chaos now but at the time, they claimed they were voting to "end the madness!"
It’s hard to admit that you were fooled by a charlatan — and since most of these people also are Christians, they’re getting fooled by two charlatans!
Clarify for me who the second charlatan is…?
1. Trump
2. Religion
They are both useless to mankind. That is, unless you want to start a war.
As a person who serves the institutional church (religion) and finds beauty in my relationships in the church with God Jesus and humanity I will simply ask that your painting brush of assumptions and judgements of its value be not so wide. The Queens real estate mob boss sundowning as President and his self empretzeling sycophants are the end game of 80 years of the dumbing down of America and the religious rights marriage to Reaganism and Reagonomics. These authoritarian Christofascists do not represent the best of humanity nor Jesus good news. Believe me, I find them offensive too. Please do not put me in the same category with their bastardized faith.
I’m not saying all Christians are bad. Most of them are very good people. The problem is that there is no evidence (0 proof) that any God exists. It’s a scam. That’s all I’m saying.
Plus, I also have to add that religion is the root cause of most of the wars on this planet and my belief is that if we were 90% % atheist and believed in facts and science, we could be better caretakers of this planet and that’s what this planet needs. This is our only home and planet in the vastness of the known universe and it’s in serious trouble right now. Unless we address global warming we may lose it.
And later, if there turns out there is a god, I think that’s what he would want.
Agree with you that Trump is indisputably a charlatan. Religious faith is a different matter… History demonstrates that centuries of Catholic & Christian institutional corruption have existed side-by-side with powerful humanity and faith witness. For good and for ill, all institutions reflect the character of those who control them. Peace ☮️🌻
Exactly. Like I learned as child, the church is not the building or the steeple, it is a collection of humans for better or for worse.
Discovering that trump lies is as like discovering that the sky is blue. Talk about the 77 million stupid people who voted for him, they are the threat to democracy. The 32 % who voted for trump don't read what you write. The 32% who voted for Harris already know he lies. The 36% who didn't vote need to be educated about the suffering they are experiencing is the result of letting trump back into the white house. Why didn't 85 million people not vote in 2024?
You have to be a lame brain to believe what Republicons tell you, especially the biggest liar of all time. And, that’s what we have here in the US, idiots aplenty.
The shock is not that Trump hasn’t delivered on promises. The shock is that there is still about 40% of the electorate that support a man so clearly inept, corrupt, selfish and utterly incompetent. How could such a person have credibly been expected to deliver? Go figure. Speaks volumes on the equal incompetence and unreliable intelligence of so many citizens.
A ticket a tasket a basket full of deplorables. We can call magats voters lame brains, incompetent, unintelligent, threat to democracy, idiots: a lady calls them a basket of deplorables and a lady never lies.
But sometimes it is wisest to not state the obvious. Adept politicians know that.
Like when it is irrelevant to the goal(s) of the campaign. Criticizing voters is a no-no. Kissing off voters with insults leaves a lasting legacy. Bill Clinton won many of those states. Some 2x. Those states are now ruby red. In the past 2 elections those words were not forgotten. They were attached to other Dems.
So how was that remark helpful? Oh, and the one about we’re going to elimination your (coal miner) jobs? All I see is us forgotten insulting remarks that remain obstacles to winning people over.
Ditto!
Such a disgusting man.
The unstable ungenius who pledged to cut gas prices in half has, in some parts of the country, caused them to double. Here in Central New York they have jumped by over $1/gallon in the last two weeks. All hail Trump! The economic savior we have been waiting for!!! /s
Here in Annapolis, MD, gas prices all over yesterday were above $4, except for the one place on Forest Dr that’s cash-only. Young working families with jobs that require commuting are going to really be feeling it. Not to mention how those fuel costs impact the prices of everything else!
"“If they rise, they rise,” Trump said."
When he dies, we rise, says I!
And before he dies, hopefully, we rise!
We're rising now with more to come. Stay tuned to a positive channel like you've been doing. We are all somehow gonna be fine.
Why would ANY of us believe ANYTHING he says, ever?
Let me see. If gas was supposed to be $1.50 a gallon and it's now closer to $4.50 a gallon doesn't that mean trump was off by only 200%? Those trump gas (no pun intended) lies fit well with his no new wars rants. But the price of eggs. And dems couldn't beat that bloated, lying, bag of trash. Amazing... I am sure the polymarketsare going wild today in anticipation of trum's blithering idiot Iran remarks tonight. I won't be watching...
Trump has over delivered on his 2024 pledge to the oil industry, not only neutering the EV industry, Solar and Wind but now the Iran War windfall.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/trump-oil-industry-campaign-money/
Right...this is the part of the story that gets lost. Trump made many, many pledges. Some of them run contrary to each other. He didin't keep his promise to cut gas prices, but he did keep his promise to make his friends rich, and his friends are the ones lending him money to build his ballroom, and build a base for cryptocurrency, and invest in his soon coming Middle East property development.
He no longer needs his "base", so he no longer even thinks about them.
And those where if the big donors gave enough $$ they would have a say in policies, get access to the WH & an easy path to permit approvals. Plus opening public lands to private interests.
If he falls, he falls. If he is disgraced, he is disgraced. If he chokes, he chokes. If he croaks, he croaks.
Oh lordy, let it be.
“Is the fake news hearing that?” You bet they are. Judd has it on tape!
is our president sufferig from syphilis dementia. and like a mad dog should be put down
Where is Kristi when you need her, eh?
I suppose it's good to be reminded about yet another one of Trump's false claims, but "Trump Lies Again" isn't big news when we come to Lie #50,000.
Give me news I can use. Hearing details of one of Trump's lies isn't enough.
I could use some outline of a plan on how to communicate this to Trump supporters in a way that breaks through to peel them away. And to know whether this is the issue that's worth pressing, because it might cost $$$$ to push the message to them.
What I'd really like to know is this -- what sustains the 30% favorable belief in this president in the face of everything? Is it regular propaganda refreshing, such as Fox News? It some deeply internalized belief or identity? Or what? Without knowing what drives it, how can we work to address it?
So.... Why the continued support in face of obvious lies and harmful actions? What's the psychological basis? What are best theoretical ways to address that? What's the current best topic to apply this to? And if there are various approaches, what's the one best suited to a distributed network of volunteers spending time and effort but few dollars? Then how to get this plan out to enough if us to use?
From personal experience, I was at the hair salon recently where the husband was seated waiting for his wife. I’ve known these people for years and I also know that the husband is a die-hard republican/Trump supporter. I always avoid any discussion of politics with other customers so as not to upset the salons’ owner. I couldn’t help myself recently and came right out and asked him if any of the accusations in the Epstein files against Trump bothered him. He repeated “Democrat hoax” oh really I said. Then he said what about Clinton? I said I don’t care who is in it, but anyone convicted of rape and child abuse should go to prison. He said well you love your 401k don’t you? (I don’t have a 401k) but I answered I’d rather take a hit in the stock market and have an honest, empathetic and ethical person as President than this guy. He shook his head. I said do you believe that Biden won the Presidency and he said no. “Millions of illegals voted” I said Dan, you really believe that? He said yes. I told him there is so little voter fraud that it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. I said even the Heritage Foundation admits no voter fraud.He shook his head. I said ok Dan. Isn’t it crazy how 2 people like us can look at the same picture and see 2 different things? He said yeah it is crazy. I ended the conversation with well can we least agree that today the sky is blue and it’s damn cold outside? He said yes. This is what we are dealing with. It’s cult-like and it’s difficult to get one out of the cult.
Dan sounds like a lot of people I know. They believe all of Trump's lies and committ themselves completely, heart and soul, to his cult. Facts are irrelevant.
I tell myself that someday reality will catch up with them. Reality has a way of doing that. It persists over time. Lies disintegrate.
It’s impossible to reach Trump supporters. I’ve tried too. Zero success.
We don’t need the 30% who still approve of him. We need the persuadables & new voters. Independents & young people who are fed up. We need to know their main issues & how the Dems will address them.
New voters - Dems have been registering far fewer voters than the GOP. The DNC is launching a voter registration program. https://democrats.org/news/dnc-launches-largest-ever-partisan-national-voter-registration-campaign-to-mobilize-the-next-generation-of-democratic-voters/
The Economist does a weekly update on his approval with a state map which toggles between now & 2024 election timeframe. For some time he’s been underwater on all the issues & with all demographics. In 2024 he won 30 states - many marginally. For months his approval rating was underwater water in 28-30 states. Now he’s only above water in 6. https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
This doesn’t automatically translate into Dem wins, but it does pave the way.
I’ll just add that his approval numbers are on par with the % of Republicans who believe the moon landing was a hoax (36%). For one thing, angry people who have grievances & don’t trust government turn to bizarre explanations &/or look for someone to save them. Covid ignited a lot of chaos, angst & distrust. It is a global issue. One thing Donnie did by being such an a-hole to our allies was blunt some of the rightwing growth in their countries. But it is a historical phenomenon that in the aftermath of such disruptions particularly with economic stresses people turn “strongmen”.