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I walked away from Twitter (didn't delete my account, but haven't posted, visited the site or responded to any posts) the day after the self-proclaimed "Chief Twit" reinstated the account of professional Jew-hater Andrew Anglin. That was it as far as I was concerned. I won't go back until/unless Musk sells Twitter. I miss some of the people I followed, but I refuse to give this classless cretin the website traffic he needs.

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I have done the same thing and I am sure that many others are also doing this.

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Same

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Dec 19, 2022·edited Dec 19, 2022

What a thoughtful commentary. The final paragraph and its suggestion that data ownership will potentially drive innovation is something I used to believe but no longer do simply because so many people don't really care about privacy and data ownership.

Until it bites them in the ass, that is. If you make your living by creating content as I do you are much more sensitive to what people do with your content. That extends to worrying about what a platform can do with your content and, as we are seeing, we can't trust Twitter now given Musk's whims.

Fortunately I'm not in the news business -- I'm just a consumer and consult as many sources as I can given that formerly reliable sources such as The Washington Post are no longer as trustworthy as they once were. Giving up Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram has not really affected my access to news -- there are many sources out there (https://www.ddmcd.com/managing-technology/mynews) -- but it has reduced my exposure to unpleasant and unproductive political arguments.

What worries me most about sources like Twitter and The Washington Post and their deteriorating performance as reliable news sources is that it is possibe to pay for and subscribe to intelligent and thoughtful sources (like POPULAR INFORMATION) but I'm seeing so many new subscription service rising that I can't possible pay for everything.

And that's what Twitter's decay points out: There AIn't No Such Thing as a Free Lunch, even if it's advertiser supported.

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You nailed the issue on the head with your last couple of paragraphs. I'm now living on a "fixed income". I can't tell you how many solicitations I get weekly to donate money or to subscribe to a newsletter. It would be unsustainable to me.

And I agree, the Post has turned into a corporatocracy supporter masquerading as a democracy beacon. It's my local paper so I still pay for it, but I dropped the NY Times a year ago. Another wolf in sheep's clothing.

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See my comment above. People with power and influence do care, I’m part of an effort working on this exact thing. Search on Project Liberty and Unfinished Labs.

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I left Twitter one week after Musk took control and I opened a Mastodon account. I found you there yesterday Judd! I have heard the argument to stay on Twitter and fight. Thing is, nobody is listening on Twitter and no one’s mind is being changed on anything. It is just shouting, anger, lies and crude, vile comments made about others. I don’t want to support that environment in any way. More members means more advertising dollars. I deleted my account. I wish more media, newsletters, authors would leave Twitter for the same reason. Take as many as you can with you and let it become irrelevant.

Mastodon is none of that. Takes a minute to figure out but it is a much better atmosphere. I find more of my former Twitter follows everyday. I miss the international accounts I followed for info on what’s going on in their country and their perspective on ours. I did find the reporter in Ukraine I really like who keeps me updated on the war.

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Is Mastodon also ad-supported? If so it may go down the same sewer hole as Meta, Google, TikTok, LinkedIn, and (dare I say) Substack?

Problem is IDPs (Identity Providers) -- so dang easy not to have to remember all those pesky Passwords and Site URLs, just let {Google|Facebook|Microsoft|Twitter} remember who I am and then SingleSignOn my life (and ad history) away!

Remember how shocked we were when BankO'Merica -- or was it WelchFargo -- started telling us it was OK to let them collect our thumbprints? Then it was Retina Scans (but only on certain iPhones). Then all of a sudden, a Tidal Wave of Social Media outlets offering to conveniently store your identity, "securely", somewhere in a cloud, you knew not where.

How many times has Google been hacked by "state actors" or even "pre-teen hackers"? Facebook? Microsoft? Twitter (esp. after their security dept was gutted by Musk)? Well, we'll probably never know the exact number, but we are just "ah, well, hope a fascist dictator or wannabe like Musk never takes over" ... sigh. The hackers know what an easy gold streak this information stuff is to mine! And when we see Musk's true colors (evicting journalists he doesn't like -- genius!), it's already too late, they have our identity, because Social Media has become this generation's Fast Food -- we know it's bad for us, but it sure is a CONVENIENT truthy-social way to belch political and conspiratorial lies to the uni/meta-verse! Don't even have to remember a password!

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Not ad supported. But I get your point on companies collecting our identities and information.

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I like the emphasis on legislation at the end here. These social media giants aren't going to rein themselves in. Unfortunately, I don't know how willing or able a lot of our old-guard politicians are to understand the issues at play here and to make the kinds of changes that will put more power in the people's hands.

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OK. Full disclosure. I am 80 and I don’t have a Twitter account. I also don’t see a need for one . I am also offended by the electronic sign on my local VA Hospital that says “ Follow us on Twitter , Facebook, ...” Why not refer us to the New York Times or some local newspapers? This VA reference is only illustrative. There are many such announcements of connectivity. Businesses, organizations, etc. Perhaps we ( the readers of actual journalism DIRECTLY FROM ITS SOURCE ) should stop patronizing these “ Social Media “ sites as a source of news and analysis. It appears to this old crank that these sites use (steal) other people’s work). I hope Musk destroys Twitter and in the process makes users rethink all such sites. Sorry to ramble.

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I think the thing you are missing in your comment is that that sign you reference is suggesting their patrons "follow" them on social media to get information/updates *directly* from them. Referring people to a newspaper has nothing to do with getting updates from the VA hospital. Of course, this has nothing to do with your personal choices, which are entirely up to you.

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As soon as the sale of Twitter went through to Musk, I deleted my account. It was a sad moment for me as I had many followers…as an ordinary individual. I chatted with some great minds on a daily basis there. I fully understand how those with tens if thousands or million plus followers had to be careful about their next steps. Many hoped Musk would give it up. He may have to now. Even so, I could not stay under the ownership of yet another narcissistic-billionaire-brat.

I finally made the move to a new growing site, Mastodon. I am perfectly willing to be patient as it is getting overwhelmed right now.

Musk is gravely wounding the reputation of Tesla. He is not one of the founders. One commenter suggested people “key” any Tesla they see…that’s as idiotic and MAGA as one can get!

As a Tesla owner, I was horrified at this type of comment. And it wasn’t from a MAGA but a regular chatter in a progressive group.

The Tesla board should remove Musk as a danger to the brand. But of course…he’s the biggest investor. This country truly is, in the words of late Paul Wellstone (regarding government contracts), “It is a system of legalized bribery and legalized extortion.”

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Simpatico! except unfortunately I don't own a Tesla. Interesting point on Musk and Tesla from Mornin' Joe Scarborough: sales for Tesla are decreasing, and Musk doesn't realize that it's the Libs who love and buy Tesla's! So, he's shooting himself in the foot...

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The attention he seems to want from the MAGA types is risible considering they would touch an electric car. It IS the left who buy Teslas. But up to now couldn’t have realized just how bad Musk was. Just as we discovered with TFG, he is a total monster. Before we knew how bad, he was just another spoiled brat egotistical & hypocritical billionaire! The usual tech or big business CEO type.

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Let's say the board voted to remove Musk. Under most articles of incorporation, a shareholder vote can override a board vote.

It's Musk's toy and he will play with it like the narcissitic juvenile he is. I keep an account only because it's easier to follow links in my local paper. But I have not posted a thing since around the time Musk announced he was buying his new, expensive baby rattle.

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Yes, but I think his entire stake in the company is 23%. excluding options closer to 14%.

Narcissistic juvenile is a great description of him.

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When the deal closed a month or two ago, Musk and his investors, of which he was the lead, acquired all the rest of the outstanding shares but for Jack Dorsey's 2.4%. I can't find what the split is amongst that investment group. If you have a link, would you mind posting it? Thanks.

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Great reference -- Wellstone and Warren were the elite guard in the early 2000s that saw the threat that tech and banking giants pose to our freedoms, and talked about reining them in -- to which I think it was Zuckerberg who said "we have more lawyers than the US Government, so just TRY IT!"

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I hadn’t heard that remark. I think we are just beginning to see the tables turn, but too many have paid a high price because of the looong delay in justice.

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The quote below was 2019, from https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/02/us/mark-zuckerberg-elizabeth-warren.html

“If she gets elected president, then I would bet that we will have a legal challenge, and I would bet that we will win the legal challenge,” Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s chief executive, said of Ms. Warren and her plan, according to leaked recordings of comments he made to Facebook employees.

“Does that still suck for us? Yeah. I mean, I don’t want to have a major lawsuit against our own government. That’s not like the position you want to be in. We care about our country and want to work with our government to do good things,” he added. “But look, at the end of the day, if someone’s going to try to threaten something that existential, you go to the mat and you fight.”

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We’ve allowed too much monopolizing and too much wealth into the hands if fewer and fewer people. This is what follows.

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If by 'we' you mean Sinemanchin and 90% of GOP I fully agree. We have our own hordes of oligarchs but doubt 'Horns' and the stop the steal 1/6 horde were all about freezing THEIR assets.

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"Legislation is going to be required to change this so that we can have more innovation."

I'm all for amending Section 230 so that platforms that algorithmically boost or make revenue from boosting a post are liable for the content. But I also think that anti-trust enforcement would go a long way to fixing the concentration of social media without new legislation.

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Zuckerberg should be never have been allowed to buy Instagram. For one example. Let's not get into the other mergers, like Kroger and Albertsons, in the works. I'm tired of the myth of economies of scale benefiting anyone but corporations, who end up with more pricing power.

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I quit twitter and FB a few years ago, couldn’t take the attacks and arguing. Plus, they were a huge time suck. Still have instagram but only check it every one or two weeks, and most of what I follow are animal pics & videos because they give me a little joy. There are several outlets where I keep up with the news but must agree it’s becoming cost prohibitive. There’s my 2 cents.

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I noticed in comments on another PI column today that someone mentioned the Nextdoor app and how nasty comments can get there. I dumped that too.

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“One of the things that we need to do is to incentivize more innovation.”

We have to outlaw monopolies! Every time a new idea in competition with the “big guys” comes along, they get bought out and absorbed by the “big guys.” Thus squashing what could have been of innovation making the big corporations bigger.

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This was an informative piece. In the TwitterSpaces Joan mentions, Elon told us exactly why he wanted Twitter, but many, maybe most, didn’t listen and believe. It seems as if we’d learned nothing else in the Trump era, we should have learned to listen when people tell us who they are. Musk wanted power, pure and simple, and he got it. Now that Twitter is his, he really can do as he pleases and is obligated only to himself, the people who rolled their investment over, to his other sources of income and to federal law where applicable. Tesla investors are unhappy, but are Jack and the Saudi Prince? Unless it was a command performance in Qatar, I’m guessing the Prince is fine. And as for federal law, we all know how long it takes to build a case.

I’m a consumer rather than content creator, and I used Twitter as an amalgam of news and info. I found PI through Twitter, and I also found TPM and Teri Kanefield there (to name a few) and learned about other social media sites there. It’s been a quick way to find WaPo and NYT articles of key interest. Twitter has been useful, and it’s often been fun. But, Twitter owed us nothing. It’s been free, and it’s been a good ride. It now appears over.

I’ve been shocked at the level of stress the Twitter change caused for me. I was spending too much time there and found myself too concerned about what was happening. I found Post and was lucky to get off the waitlist quickly. I haven’t given up Twitter, but spend 90% less time there. I am so much happier. Seriously. I like Post. Content creators are coming, the waitlist is moving and new features are released weekly. Engagement happens. Yes, there are legit issues people have with the platform, some of which will be resolved during the beta cycle, but others, such as ownership, won’t be.

With so many new public squares, content creators need a way to automate posts so they hit multiple platforms and find a way to engage/converse with readers on some or all. Maybe more content creators will join forces ala Bulwark or Semafor. Some may push for legislation that allows ownership of their data, as Joan suggests. I think there’s little doubt this is an inflection point.

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Judd, my organization Unfinished Labs is part of a larger effort called Project Liberty, which is working alongside many different organizations, universities, ethicists, community leaders and others such as Frances Haugen, on a solution to decentralize and democratize social media. We have a working platform and specification for this right now. This effort was spearheaded by Frank McCourt and Braxton Woodham. I don’t want to post links here but anyone who wants to learn more can easily find out with a simple search. Frank and Project Liberty have been featured in numerous publications including Time, Rolling Stone and Forbes. Our code is open source too, so anyone may see exactly what we’re doing.

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I use Twitter for multiple things: breaking news, funny memes, live sports video clips. I have a range of topical interests: graphic design, journalism, political commentary. It's hard to envision going to another platform that would easily enable me to connect to the same eclectic network of people and accounts. OTOH, when I think about how I feel after reading content like this article, or anything really other than pet videos--which is a combination of anger, frustration, and angst at being powerless to fix anything--it may just be time for me to cut the cord entirely and go back to something like an RSS feed and subs to a few newsletters like this one, Mother Jones, and Robert Reich's. But those too cause me more angry impotence than is good for me.

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Maybe back to videos of animals and babies: innocence! Or, humor. One of my disabled clients uses "Lucy" reruns to restore her sanity!

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Given the chief twit-wit's actions, I think everyone needs to think long and hard about continuing to support the platform. I've deleted my account. I wish there was a good alternative, but at this point there does not seem to be a unified platform that can replace Twitter.

One suggestion I do have is to make sure the RSS feed for PI is front and center. I've been moving a lot of my former Twitter connections to RSS where possible.

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Judd, You and many other Substack writers give us the details we need to win arguments with Republican family members or Republicans we run into in public. I no longer consider anyone who supports the fascist criminal cult of republicans to be friends.

But even overhearing arguments from everyday people goes a long way in getting people to understand. The ultra MAGA will not change because they are too deeply indoctrinated. But many are reachable.

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The bulk of people are mentally challenged, but that doesn't mean you abolish tools because many don't know how to use them.

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I found out about Judd through Robert Reich, not Twitter. Never used Twitter. Have no interest in using Twitter now. I share Judd's news stories on my FB page at times.

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