From what I saw, most of the "violence" was instigated by the LAPD, not the protesters, and it included throwing tear gas at people who were complying with their right to protest, shoving down defenseless bystanders, and shooting people point blank with rubber bullets. Disturbing events in the so-called "land of the free and home of the brave."
Judd reported that after a peaceful protest on Saturday, there was some violence in LA on Sunday. I haven't seen much coverage of this outside of Substack. I can only imagine how it is covered on Fox News.
It's not "average Americans" it's males for the most part. I think we might have made a mistake in women's liberation movement not bringing men along for their liberation as well. The whole culture of machoism needs to be brought down with a crash.
Excellent take. Unfortunately, average Americans of both (all) genders, roughly half of us, have lost all semblance of intelligence and honesty. Only stupidity is left. It's gonna be a long struggle up from these depths. After all, it took 45 years for them to destroy our New Deal improved government, which came about only after untold suffering under the Great Depression and the Greater War. Vietnam was the writing on the wall. Ten years of protests that barely moved the needle, until our own surviving soldiers returned home to protest with us. The Republican Fascists still have the high court in their sweaty little hands. They are drooling at the prospect of shooting us. All of this has been pre-announced by Herr Trumpler. Be safe, if you can.
We are living in a country that is a kakistocracy, kleptocracy and oligarchy all rolled into one. Perhaps they tend to go together. The rolling out the national guard serves several purposes, none of which is making law and order.
Trump wants to scare everyone into staying home before June 14, and he only has 5 days in which to do that. Instead he might have the opposite effect.
Trump wants to distract his followers from the intended effects of the Big Bad Bill.
Trump wants to distract from the effects of Musk's words over the past few days.
Trump wants to spread disinformation, as usual. Has to test the effectiveness of his own social media platform as opposed to X. Will Musk amplify Trump's immigration message or not?
Trump is preparing the US to get used to living in a police state, and gearing up to dragging in the military. These actions have been very carefully prepared.
Trump is attacking the state that is the most powerful financially and trying to destroy it.
I had been saying that Blue states should collectively succeed from the USA, and become the Democratic States of America. The question arises whether one can legally unjoin a country one has joined. Putin certainly is trying to make the case that one cannot.
Trump, in destroying California begins to destroy the wealth that the US has. Again, we are living in a kakistocracy, and that is going to destroy the USA as it is. We need to prolong what we have for as long as we can until we can get rid of this government by the absolute worst people. Voted for by the absolutely most clueless people.
it's all he's ever done.." manufactures a crisis"... how old was he when he threw rocks at a baby? 5 , 6 yo? then in the 70's he learns from his dad and roy cohen... blacks are bad, sue contractors they were cheating him, women are stupid, girls ask for it so it's ok, cook the books because the government doesn't deserve it , it never ends and now he has actual legal, congressional & military behind him believing he is the victim and there are bad people who want to hurt him...he is, was and will always be a monster of endless depth in his depravity.... a true gift to both Heritage & Federalist groups.... he's putty in their hands.
I haven't seen anything to that effect in all the news that I read. Proud Boys are a possibility at some point but I don't think Trump feels a need for mercenaries since he has so many other resources.
I've not encountered anything in the way of solid evidence but from the attitude(s) displayed by those chosen to engage in these activities, one would presume so.
Exactly. Projections always of their own shit. We have been asking why ICE needs masks and why they need to hide their face but now he is trying to assert control over protestors and call into question their masks? All the while the actual Insurrectionists over at our actual government capitol were “peaceful protestor victims” just because Trump believed in their “cause” just like the Nazis in Charlottesville. Another step toward dictatorship.
Wrong. Anyone can wear a mask. trump can't have congress make a law then it, deeming it illegal to wear a mask at a protest. They're shooting off pepper balls. You think the people can't protect themselves, when they're merely protesting? Protesting is protected under the 1st ammendment in the US Constitution.
Trump certainly scared my mom. She told me not to go anywhere near any National Guard troops. They aren't in my area as of Sunday in any case. 2000 troops could easily vanish in Los Angeles, that's how big the area is. I think Trump and his people are mental.
The phony and chaotic orders from the WH that were responsible for the mess in Newark NJ a few weeks ago when 3 Representatives from NJ were following their rights to investigate detention centers. The disorganized and witless ICE and HSI group were eventually faced with their illegal actions, but only after the Black Newark mayor running for governor of NJ was spotted and was then being protected by 2 Black and one white Congressmen to prevent his arrest--totally unwarranted, but not before much abuse and court arrest from Trump WH orders. This prelude lasted about 3 weeks. Now we know it's part of the Trump plan to make excuses to call in the military for (unneeded) "protection." In Newark, "Black," Trump's favorite color to attack drew his attention. The "Brown" people are the immigration targets currently in Trump's line of racist vision. He knows he has a group of racist followers who believe every lie he utters.
Any excuse will do to go full dictator. January 6 failed but now he sees an opening and he has his subservient minions and hateful comrades to do his authoritarian bidding. Where are the Joint Chiefs when we need them?? 🧐
Gavin Newsome and Karen Bass need a couple of executive orders of their own that order the LAPD, sheriff's office, highway patrol and any other state or city law enforcement operation to refuse to aid and abet the ICE terrorists or the National Guard. If that order is violated, the individual will be immediately suspended without pay pending termination for insubordination. The unions will howl. Fuck them. Let them howl. Why should Democrats always be the ones to submit???
There will be blood. And those few American corpses will distract us from the millions of bodies piling up around the world with many many small bodies thrown on the piles.
Snowflakes. Republicans are snowflakes. Can’t take a little criticism. And this is just (a) political retribution and (b) the shiny object to distract from the difficulties his “big beautiful bill” is facing.
trump has also dreamed of putting on a Putin/Kim Jon Un style military parade - on his birthday no less. He's getting it. Like Putin and KJU, no one dares to stop him.
Scump won’t be satiated until protesters are killed. Understand for a maniac & fool, it’s blood in the streets & gutters that gives them their jollies. Deaths & chaos are the Scump’s motivation.
From what I saw, most of the "violence" was instigated by the LAPD, not the protesters, and it included throwing tear gas at people who were complying with their right to protest, shoving down defenseless bystanders, and shooting people point blank with rubber bullets. Disturbing events in the so-called "land of the free and home of the brave."
What? Judd just reported your reported violence was not the case!
"These claims were directly contradicted by the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), which described Saturday's protests as "peaceful."
Right. If any "violence" was done by protesters, it was to property. Which is regrettable in many cases, but it's not the same as bodily harm.
Damage to property is the only damage police care about unless you count their right to inflict it.
You seem to be contradicting yourself.
From what I understand, the first car set ablaze was by LAPD, shooting off pepper balls and flash bangs.
Judd reported that after a peaceful protest on Saturday, there was some violence in LA on Sunday. I haven't seen much coverage of this outside of Substack. I can only imagine how it is covered on Fox News.
MSNBC had it, live. Has it live since it started.
LAPD were doing the shoving, the of shooting of rubber bullets, not protestors. Of course LAPD would deny that claim.
Kent State and the four bystanders
I blame Republicans in congress.
Why would they allow this military parade if saving money was their real concern?
Why would they allow any military or police units to threaten citizens of a sovereign state?
I have no explanation why average Americans would have voted for Trump.
It's not "average Americans" it's males for the most part. I think we might have made a mistake in women's liberation movement not bringing men along for their liberation as well. The whole culture of machoism needs to be brought down with a crash.
Excellent take. Unfortunately, average Americans of both (all) genders, roughly half of us, have lost all semblance of intelligence and honesty. Only stupidity is left. It's gonna be a long struggle up from these depths. After all, it took 45 years for them to destroy our New Deal improved government, which came about only after untold suffering under the Great Depression and the Greater War. Vietnam was the writing on the wall. Ten years of protests that barely moved the needle, until our own surviving soldiers returned home to protest with us. The Republican Fascists still have the high court in their sweaty little hands. They are drooling at the prospect of shooting us. All of this has been pre-announced by Herr Trumpler. Be safe, if you can.
"Only stupidity is left."
Let that phrase rattle around in your brainhouse.
We are living in a country that is a kakistocracy, kleptocracy and oligarchy all rolled into one. Perhaps they tend to go together. The rolling out the national guard serves several purposes, none of which is making law and order.
Trump wants to scare everyone into staying home before June 14, and he only has 5 days in which to do that. Instead he might have the opposite effect.
Trump wants to distract his followers from the intended effects of the Big Bad Bill.
Trump wants to distract from the effects of Musk's words over the past few days.
Trump wants to spread disinformation, as usual. Has to test the effectiveness of his own social media platform as opposed to X. Will Musk amplify Trump's immigration message or not?
Trump is preparing the US to get used to living in a police state, and gearing up to dragging in the military. These actions have been very carefully prepared.
Trump is attacking the state that is the most powerful financially and trying to destroy it.
I had been saying that Blue states should collectively succeed from the USA, and become the Democratic States of America. The question arises whether one can legally unjoin a country one has joined. Putin certainly is trying to make the case that one cannot.
Trump, in destroying California begins to destroy the wealth that the US has. Again, we are living in a kakistocracy, and that is going to destroy the USA as it is. We need to prolong what we have for as long as we can until we can get rid of this government by the absolute worst people. Voted for by the absolutely most clueless people.
it's all he's ever done.." manufactures a crisis"... how old was he when he threw rocks at a baby? 5 , 6 yo? then in the 70's he learns from his dad and roy cohen... blacks are bad, sue contractors they were cheating him, women are stupid, girls ask for it so it's ok, cook the books because the government doesn't deserve it , it never ends and now he has actual legal, congressional & military behind him believing he is the victim and there are bad people who want to hurt him...he is, was and will always be a monster of endless depth in his depravity.... a true gift to both Heritage & Federalist groups.... he's putty in their hands.
Any news out there on ICE and whether they are using mercenaries or Proud Boys etc to be so cruel in this whole deportation mess?
Seems likely given that all of these violent terrorists insist on being masked.
I haven't seen anything to that effect in all the news that I read. Proud Boys are a possibility at some point but I don't think Trump feels a need for mercenaries since he has so many other resources.
There are some indications that the masked incursionists are Proud Boys who don’t want to be identified.
I've not encountered anything in the way of solid evidence but from the attitude(s) displayed by those chosen to engage in these activities, one would presume so.
Masks will not be allowed at protests. That right is reserved for ICE agents.
Also, anything deemed by Trump as Fake News = truth
Exactly. Projections always of their own shit. We have been asking why ICE needs masks and why they need to hide their face but now he is trying to assert control over protestors and call into question their masks? All the while the actual Insurrectionists over at our actual government capitol were “peaceful protestor victims” just because Trump believed in their “cause” just like the Nazis in Charlottesville. Another step toward dictatorship.
A Topsy Turvy World ain't it?
Hey! Long time no see 😊
Hey there! Pleased to hear from ya.
Wrong. Anyone can wear a mask. trump can't have congress make a law then it, deeming it illegal to wear a mask at a protest. They're shooting off pepper balls. You think the people can't protect themselves, when they're merely protesting? Protesting is protected under the 1st ammendment in the US Constitution.
Trump certainly scared my mom. She told me not to go anywhere near any National Guard troops. They aren't in my area as of Sunday in any case. 2000 troops could easily vanish in Los Angeles, that's how big the area is. I think Trump and his people are mental.
"I think Trump and his people are mental."
And a whole lot of folks have fallen for this craziness due to their training. Think Pavlov's dogs.
Kent State comes to mind …
Yes, and Selma! This move could lead to the shootings Trump wanted General Millie to endorse.
Saw a comment on another forum yesterday that said Graham Nash needs to be ready with another song.
The phony and chaotic orders from the WH that were responsible for the mess in Newark NJ a few weeks ago when 3 Representatives from NJ were following their rights to investigate detention centers. The disorganized and witless ICE and HSI group were eventually faced with their illegal actions, but only after the Black Newark mayor running for governor of NJ was spotted and was then being protected by 2 Black and one white Congressmen to prevent his arrest--totally unwarranted, but not before much abuse and court arrest from Trump WH orders. This prelude lasted about 3 weeks. Now we know it's part of the Trump plan to make excuses to call in the military for (unneeded) "protection." In Newark, "Black," Trump's favorite color to attack drew his attention. The "Brown" people are the immigration targets currently in Trump's line of racist vision. He knows he has a group of racist followers who believe every lie he utters.
"He knows he has a group of racist followers who believe every lie he utters."
And even if they don't really believe the lies, the lies serve as a convenient excuse to act out in just the way they've always wanted!
Adam, watch "White With Fear" on Prime. Watch, listen to the crazies.
Thank you Terry. I'll be sure to check that out.
Any excuse will do to go full dictator. January 6 failed but now he sees an opening and he has his subservient minions and hateful comrades to do his authoritarian bidding. Where are the Joint Chiefs when we need them?? 🧐
Gavin Newsome and Karen Bass need a couple of executive orders of their own that order the LAPD, sheriff's office, highway patrol and any other state or city law enforcement operation to refuse to aid and abet the ICE terrorists or the National Guard. If that order is violated, the individual will be immediately suspended without pay pending termination for insubordination. The unions will howl. Fuck them. Let them howl. Why should Democrats always be the ones to submit???
There will be blood. And those few American corpses will distract us from the millions of bodies piling up around the world with many many small bodies thrown on the piles.
Snowflakes. Republicans are snowflakes. Can’t take a little criticism. And this is just (a) political retribution and (b) the shiny object to distract from the difficulties his “big beautiful bill” is facing.
Thank you, Judd, for the clear reporting.
trump has also dreamed of putting on a Putin/Kim Jon Un style military parade - on his birthday no less. He's getting it. Like Putin and KJU, no one dares to stop him.
Scump won’t be satiated until protesters are killed. Understand for a maniac & fool, it’s blood in the streets & gutters that gives them their jollies. Deaths & chaos are the Scump’s motivation.
Especially since he can't you know... like that Aerosmith song on the Draw The Line album - "Can't Get It Up!?!"