On Tuesday, Trump's lawyers filed his first formal response to the article of impeachment that was approved by the House of Representatives on January 13. Trump was impeached, for the second time, on a single charge: incitement of insurrection.
It's no surprise that trumps original legal team walked out on him. These arguments try to use big fancy words and lawyer speak but as you point out in layman's terms, these arguments are pathetic and look like a child made them. So trump literally says. "You need to fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore." and "We're going to march down Pennsylvania to the Capital" but his lawyers are trying to say he was advocating for election security?!? The mind boggles at these pathetic arguments. For too long trump has been able to skate around being held legally responsible for anything. He begged Russia to interfere in our elections on live TV and faced zero consequences. He then accepted that help and faced zero consequences. If he faces no consequences for flat out lying about the election and inciting a riot, the United States is no more. We cannot continue to exist as a country if this man is free and clear with no consequences. Free speech does not equate to purposefully lying about the election and inciting a riot. These lawyers are a joke and I hope they are laughed out of court.
Trump has added new members to the Clown Car. It’s mind-boggling that this is the quality of legal representation he’s getting. I guess when everyone either quits on you or refuses to sign on, you take whatever warm legal body you can get.
He won't be convicted, which is mind boggling. I'm wondering if there is a legal means to hold him accountable outside of the federal government? The thought of him running again is too much to think about. I feel like I got my sanity back and would seriously like to keep it.
Given that former presidents are provided money and staff and access to classified briefings from the US Government, one could argue that they occupy an "office of honor" and that Trump could also be removed from that office, as well as disqualified from holding any other.
I want to remind the Managers that Trump specifically said "I'll be there with you" when he urged the rioters to go to the Capitol at his rally. You can only imagine how some of his "followers" reacted because they felt they were marching right behind him. Emboldened.
There is precedent in that last bit (re: free speech), and I wish I could remember the article that cited the court cases. It clearly states that a speaker cannot be held accountable for the actions of those in the crowd even if they discuss such armed rebellions in the abstract, but there was a clear separation between that and being physically at a place where you instruct the crowd toward immediate violence. The latter free speech does not cover.
I want to see the timeline that the prosecution surely has of Trump's words and the mob's actions. Every thing he said is timestamped and every reaction is the same, thanks to the mob's endless need for approval by their social media circles. When Trump said "go" they said "where;" when he said "jump" they said, "how high;" when he said Pence was a disappointment they said "hang Pence."
Is there any way you can argue the case against Trump in the Senate? It would be over in 15 minutes. Save a lot of taxpayer bucks too.
And. The Republican Senate will buy it, spellings, repetitive remarks, nonsense and all. "Case dismissed. Treason we create is ok."
It's no surprise that trumps original legal team walked out on him. These arguments try to use big fancy words and lawyer speak but as you point out in layman's terms, these arguments are pathetic and look like a child made them. So trump literally says. "You need to fight like hell or you won't have a country anymore." and "We're going to march down Pennsylvania to the Capital" but his lawyers are trying to say he was advocating for election security?!? The mind boggles at these pathetic arguments. For too long trump has been able to skate around being held legally responsible for anything. He begged Russia to interfere in our elections on live TV and faced zero consequences. He then accepted that help and faced zero consequences. If he faces no consequences for flat out lying about the election and inciting a riot, the United States is no more. We cannot continue to exist as a country if this man is free and clear with no consequences. Free speech does not equate to purposefully lying about the election and inciting a riot. These lawyers are a joke and I hope they are laughed out of court.
Trump has added new members to the Clown Car. It’s mind-boggling that this is the quality of legal representation he’s getting. I guess when everyone either quits on you or refuses to sign on, you take whatever warm legal body you can get.
He won't be convicted, which is mind boggling. I'm wondering if there is a legal means to hold him accountable outside of the federal government? The thought of him running again is too much to think about. I feel like I got my sanity back and would seriously like to keep it.
Free speech? You can't yell "Fire!" in a movie theater and you can't tell a mob to "fight like hell" at a rally.
Given that former presidents are provided money and staff and access to classified briefings from the US Government, one could argue that they occupy an "office of honor" and that Trump could also be removed from that office, as well as disqualified from holding any other.
I want to remind the Managers that Trump specifically said "I'll be there with you" when he urged the rioters to go to the Capitol at his rally. You can only imagine how some of his "followers" reacted because they felt they were marching right behind him. Emboldened.
There is precedent in that last bit (re: free speech), and I wish I could remember the article that cited the court cases. It clearly states that a speaker cannot be held accountable for the actions of those in the crowd even if they discuss such armed rebellions in the abstract, but there was a clear separation between that and being physically at a place where you instruct the crowd toward immediate violence. The latter free speech does not cover.
I want to see the timeline that the prosecution surely has of Trump's words and the mob's actions. Every thing he said is timestamped and every reaction is the same, thanks to the mob's endless need for approval by their social media circles. When Trump said "go" they said "where;" when he said "jump" they said, "how high;" when he said Pence was a disappointment they said "hang Pence."