Absolutely shocking that these tentative detention centers, on top of being an emblem of a cruel Trump presidency, would be poorly thought-out as well. This administration is so detail-oriented. *dies of sarcasm*
The due diligence of ice is comparable to the due diligence of the Republican parties over the years. It appears the Republicans are short-sighted when it comes to long-term planning. Who knew not keeping utilities up and Roads paved would be a problem later on.
What you're describing requires levels of intelligence, logical thinking, interpersonal awareness, and emotional health that our Republican friends simply don't possess. They don't do any long range planning and are continuously caught by surprise when people have very normal and predictable (to those who possess empathy) negative reactions to the Republican's pursuit of things they believe "must certainly be true," because they have so many psychological dysfunctions and disabilities that they simply can't allow themselves to become aware that planning and taking people's reactions into account are necessary to the successful completion of projects.
They attribute their failures to conspiracies allied against them, and rely on magical thinking as they seek to accomplish the things their dysfunctions cause them to try to accomplish (most of which are wrong headed or completely unnecessary). They are easy marks for all variety of cons perpetrated upon them by people who are adept at appearing to agree with them, then robbing them blind (as is Trump himself - the easiest "mark" of all for Putin and Netanyahu, our own nation's oligarchs, and seemingly Laura Loomer).
Okay, so here is what I don't get about the detention facilities.
What do they even need them for? And why do they think they need to be so large?
Immigrant over-population is a temporary problem (I'm not saying we have one, but this administration seems to think so); their edict seems to be, round 'em up and ship 'em out. Right? And so given that, what do they need so much space for? When have they ever had that many people awaiting deporation in custody at one time? I mean, we are talking hundreds of thousands of beds. And in a year or two, after they have ejected everyone they have deemed unworthy to live in America. What will they do with them, then? House the homeless?
I think they have plans to round up all minorities (whether they are citizens or not), protesters and any other folks they don’t like. These are concentration camps being built with our tax dollars. Pepper your members of congress with messages of outrage about this!
Why do you think they have that plan? I mean, have you seen that reported somewhere or heard someone say that? Because that sounds like counter-propaganda, to me.
I don't think that's optimistic at all. It's very scary really. The point about needing so many beds points to something bigger than just picking up immigrants or stray homeless people. It points to a Gulag system in development right under our noses.
Not optimistic about the orange pedophilic sadist or anything that monster could ever spew from his anus mouth or do with his tiny fingers. All I'm trying to say is that WE -- WE, the liberals -- are making progress.
Oh, OK. Well, historically speaking on typical ends for his type and looking at his age, I'm hopeful that he's not able to finish his plans, whatever they are.
Yes! And if the government had just let them stay in their own homes, there would be no cost to ICE. And five years down the line when/if a “deportation hearing” shows that the individuals need to leave (or not), then would be the time to act.
Right now, ICE is violating so many laws and rules of moral conduct, that I don’t know how anyone would support their actions.
Excellent reporting and excellent use by local authorities of existing structure to end the abomination of these warehouses as detention facilities. Again, the six words that best describe the Queens real estate mob boss sundowning as President and his selfempretzeling sycophants:
Thank you for highlighting the continued destructive nature of an out of control ICE. ICE is much like trump; just wing it and let the people suffer. If they are stopped at one facility, like trump, they will simply move on to another facility and cause chaos. ICE, again as is trump, has no forethought, no planning, no considerations, no competence, no decency and no regard for the people it imparts. Both trump and ICE are deadly, out of control, and violent and incompetent. A recipe for disaster that will have long term harmful effects on local communities, the nation and the world. I only hope usually spineless dems, if they ever regain control of govt, hold the trumpemberg trials and hold these soulless, barbaric, dolts accountable for their heinous actions.
I hope you're right. There's so much of this bullshit going on all at once (by design) that it becomes too much for a person of average intelligence. Just think what it does to the Trumper crowd. ;-)
The last I knew (Apr 1), DHS purchased 8 facilities (at incredibly jacked up prices, like tens of millions of dollars over the asking prices in some cases. I mean, wuwt?) but has suspended moving forward on developing them into detention centers while the various lawsuits are moving through the courts.
And given the quality of “care” in current detention facilities, why would any community believe that housing detainees in their community would be a good thing?
An “administrative state” would have performed the studies, evaluated water and sewage systems of any proposed siting of a place where thousands of people would reside for a period of time, but the ideology of this regime is opposed to the administrative state, so……
Those warehouses are a boondoggle, on the public dime.
And doubt any community was asked if they wanted to join the Buchenwald class….
The rapid build of warehouse type facilities, just before Trump was inaugurated was highlighted by some journalists, pointing out the irony that if housing can go up this quickly, we should not have a housing shortage. It depends what your motivations are.
The warnings were all there. People just did not want to believe. People still don't want to believe. What we need is a lot more courage to speak up, get angry, get active. Every citizen needs to lock arms and say no.
Absolutely shocking that these tentative detention centers, on top of being an emblem of a cruel Trump presidency, would be poorly thought-out as well. This administration is so detail-oriented. *dies of sarcasm*
Can you think of any well planned project of this administration other than lining their pockets?
I've said this before: Trump is a Russian asset whose assignment is to weaken/destroy American and the West...and he's doing a superb job
I can't think of one, no.
Thank you!
The due diligence of ice is comparable to the due diligence of the Republican parties over the years. It appears the Republicans are short-sighted when it comes to long-term planning. Who knew not keeping utilities up and Roads paved would be a problem later on.
What you're describing requires levels of intelligence, logical thinking, interpersonal awareness, and emotional health that our Republican friends simply don't possess. They don't do any long range planning and are continuously caught by surprise when people have very normal and predictable (to those who possess empathy) negative reactions to the Republican's pursuit of things they believe "must certainly be true," because they have so many psychological dysfunctions and disabilities that they simply can't allow themselves to become aware that planning and taking people's reactions into account are necessary to the successful completion of projects.
They attribute their failures to conspiracies allied against them, and rely on magical thinking as they seek to accomplish the things their dysfunctions cause them to try to accomplish (most of which are wrong headed or completely unnecessary). They are easy marks for all variety of cons perpetrated upon them by people who are adept at appearing to agree with them, then robbing them blind (as is Trump himself - the easiest "mark" of all for Putin and Netanyahu, our own nation's oligarchs, and seemingly Laura Loomer).
Okay, so here is what I don't get about the detention facilities.
What do they even need them for? And why do they think they need to be so large?
Immigrant over-population is a temporary problem (I'm not saying we have one, but this administration seems to think so); their edict seems to be, round 'em up and ship 'em out. Right? And so given that, what do they need so much space for? When have they ever had that many people awaiting deporation in custody at one time? I mean, we are talking hundreds of thousands of beds. And in a year or two, after they have ejected everyone they have deemed unworthy to live in America. What will they do with them, then? House the homeless?
I think they have plans to round up all minorities (whether they are citizens or not), protesters and any other folks they don’t like. These are concentration camps being built with our tax dollars. Pepper your members of congress with messages of outrage about this!
Yeah, I agree. Liberals are down the road. Except it ain't gonna work thanks to the hard work of organizers of groups like No Kings.
Why do you think they have that plan? I mean, have you seen that reported somewhere or heard someone say that? Because that sounds like counter-propaganda, to me.
I don't think that's optimistic at all. It's very scary really. The point about needing so many beds points to something bigger than just picking up immigrants or stray homeless people. It points to a Gulag system in development right under our noses.
I'm just being optimistic for the first time in 10 years.
Well don't be. There is nothing hopeful about what Trump does, ever.
Not optimistic about the orange pedophilic sadist or anything that monster could ever spew from his anus mouth or do with his tiny fingers. All I'm trying to say is that WE -- WE, the liberals -- are making progress.
Oh, OK. Well, historically speaking on typical ends for his type and looking at his age, I'm hopeful that he's not able to finish his plans, whatever they are.
Yes! And if the government had just let them stay in their own homes, there would be no cost to ICE. And five years down the line when/if a “deportation hearing” shows that the individuals need to leave (or not), then would be the time to act.
Right now, ICE is violating so many laws and rules of moral conduct, that I don’t know how anyone would support their actions.
Maggots do, obviously. White supremacy, replacement theory, all that stuff.
They will provide yuge PROFITS for the kingz men and his hangerz-on. This is the next investment opportunity.
Duh! They need them to pay off the billionaire owners of the detention centers.
I asked Google AI: they’re kept in detention until their cases can go before a judge.
Formerly, suspected illegal migrants were allowed to live in the community while awaiting their appointments.
But now they’re kept in what are effectively concentration camps.
Why don’t they just deport them right away?
Excellent reporting and excellent use by local authorities of existing structure to end the abomination of these warehouses as detention facilities. Again, the six words that best describe the Queens real estate mob boss sundowning as President and his selfempretzeling sycophants:
Planning is hard. Chaos is easy.
Thank you for highlighting the continued destructive nature of an out of control ICE. ICE is much like trump; just wing it and let the people suffer. If they are stopped at one facility, like trump, they will simply move on to another facility and cause chaos. ICE, again as is trump, has no forethought, no planning, no considerations, no competence, no decency and no regard for the people it imparts. Both trump and ICE are deadly, out of control, and violent and incompetent. A recipe for disaster that will have long term harmful effects on local communities, the nation and the world. I only hope usually spineless dems, if they ever regain control of govt, hold the trumpemberg trials and hold these soulless, barbaric, dolts accountable for their heinous actions.
This is a valid argument against opening any more of these illegal facilities.
I don't think any of them have opened, yet.
Two examples. Camp East, Montana and Alligator Alcatraz currently have occupants.
I hope you're right. There's so much of this bullshit going on all at once (by design) that it becomes too much for a person of average intelligence. Just think what it does to the Trumper crowd. ;-)
The last I knew (Apr 1), DHS purchased 8 facilities (at incredibly jacked up prices, like tens of millions of dollars over the asking prices in some cases. I mean, wuwt?) but has suspended moving forward on developing them into detention centers while the various lawsuits are moving through the courts.
Excellent reporting. Thank you.
And given the quality of “care” in current detention facilities, why would any community believe that housing detainees in their community would be a good thing?
ICE's brand is cruelty and they literally don't know s---t‼️
Almost as if there was a plan, it was to skip the costly detention part and go directly to the gas chambers/crematorium phase.
Horrifying possibility. Tragically -- a possibility. WHO ARE WE, NOW???
What a horrifying thought.
Who needs water licenses?
An “administrative state” would have performed the studies, evaluated water and sewage systems of any proposed siting of a place where thousands of people would reside for a period of time, but the ideology of this regime is opposed to the administrative state, so……
Those warehouses are a boondoggle, on the public dime.
And doubt any community was asked if they wanted to join the Buchenwald class….
Judd, has left no details out here. Keep the light shining Judd! Maybe 60 minutes ; the only true News on CBS, will pick this reporting up.
Joseph…Absolutely loved :
“ dies of sarcasm “. Which also brings up another point …
It’s amazing such a low IQ orange person could seat in the front row of the Supreme Court hearing yesterday.
Just saying…
The rapid build of warehouse type facilities, just before Trump was inaugurated was highlighted by some journalists, pointing out the irony that if housing can go up this quickly, we should not have a housing shortage. It depends what your motivations are.
The warnings were all there. People just did not want to believe. People still don't want to believe. What we need is a lot more courage to speak up, get angry, get active. Every citizen needs to lock arms and say no.
We’ll use every tool we can find.
Hooray! Reality meets Beavis and Butthead. Thank you for this great detailed reporting.
Flush ICE down the toilet