The recent revelations should be all the ammunition needed to revoke Fox News' press credentials at the WH or Congress, and to take the first steps toward deportation for Rupert and Lachlan.
In my opinion, Rupert Murdoch should be stripped of his American citizenship and deported back to Australia -- all his businesses should be confiscated by the US government and sold.
I really wish this would be the downfall of Fox News. My feeling is they will land on their feet like a herd of cats. Justice in America is not known for treating the wealthy and powerful as equal under the law no matter the evidence. If Fox is as corrupt as it sounds and looking at National Enquirer getting a paltry fine for the catch and kill, I have no real feeling Fox will be destroyed by the Civil suit or by those who mind the store.
Trump still walks free and Jan. 6 justice fades daily.
Can't help but believe the Fox propaganda machine will continue to rattle and hum false info by day and night.
Until corporations are severely restricted as to what and how much they can contribute to campaigns, all the campaign finance rules in the world won't keep them from buying elections. Citizens United will be seen as the beginning of the end of our democracy.
Revoke news credentials and whatever broadcast licensing that they have. Another punishment could be to make them explain that they lie and on air and on their top programs and for a very long period of time.
Illegal actions are just part of the Murdoch business model--unfortunately, they were not ruined in the early 2000s by the phone-hacking scandal in the UK, when they illegally listened to phone messages, including those of a murdered schoolgirl, to benefit their market share.
Yes, in that despicable dishonorig of a murdered teenaged girl, they were not penalized that I can remember. James was rebuked, and sent back to Australia; and an outraged reporter almost landed his pie thrown in the face of Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch's wife jumped up to protect him from whipped pie assault! Let's imagine that it IS time for punishment that makes sense: criminal punishment for crimes to overthrow the US Government!
Statute of limitations has a ways to go yet. If Dominion prevails and are able to provide actionable evidence, they could. But how distracting would that be from the party's real business of preparing for two and four year election cycles?
The better approach is to treat the company like a nuclear waste dump and just stay away.
But, no Fox viewers will ever hear, or if they do believe the truth. Financially damaging Fox with boycotts and legal judgements is the only way I can see to stopping their project of destroying America.
While likely true of the majority, I have to believe there are still some sentients among Fox viewership. Perhaps not many, but enough to convince the dems that in a potentially close race, not spending money on those blindered few would be a mistake.
But Fox has now shown their full hand and it's filthy.
Agreed. Fox is one corporate entity that begs to be destroyed. It's like having some distant relative live with you (temporarily) and said relative not only has a BUNCH of weapons, but threatens you continually AND refuses to leave.
All of this info that we have seen over the past week confirms with many of us already thought and knew.
However, I do not think anything is going to happen to them. Nothing is going to prompt them to change their own course. They will lose the Dominion case & drag out paying any damages or fines.
But beyond that, I don’t see anything happening to an “entertainment” network. Nothing will displace Tucker or Hannity or any of them. Nothing will stop their viewers from watching, ingesting & praising the punditry. I’ve seen social media battles all week with viewers who are on auto-rage at this point as they mock the ones calling it out.
They don’t have an actual defense against it. But Fox has conditioned such automatic anger they don’t even think about what they are angry about. It’s just “attack” mode.
Here's a quote about FOX from my blog, The 13th Clown (www.13thclown.com), written 10 years ago:
For those readers who sense that I don’t hold FOX News in high regard, I applaud your perceptiveness. As a recovering journalist, I can state, without fear of hyperbole, that FOX News is a source of accurate information in the same sense that Popeye’s is a true Cajun dining experience.
And yet they were right back at it with Christopher Wray speaking as if the Wuhan lab leak theory was proven fact and then calling the virus a bioweapon. Naturally, there was no pushback. The right wing complains about liberal “safe spaces” and all the other so-called “snowflake” behavior of progressives (of which some can be excessive; I’ll grant them that), but it’s just more projection. These snowflakes never appear anywhere but their own safe space being interviewed by these frauds. Their BS narratives then get viewed by millions of people who swallow it whole. Shameless performant I’ve propaganda with no consequences. And now the House gets to use it even more to put forth whatever they want. People need to start protesting outside their offices, but then I’m sure they would whine about cancel culture, whatever that is…
Biden should have chosen a new leader of the FBI. For some reason, Dems always strive to prove their “bipartisan creds” by giving prime cabinet positions and agencies to Conservatives. Biden should have routed as many Trump appointees as he could legally after becoming president. Wray is a Republican shill.
Agreed. Asymmetry all the way. And now the Inquisitors are saying that the FBI Director “confirmed “ the lab leak theory (Rep. Banks during his torture questioning). The outrages never cease. Probably the point.
The news has reported Christopher Wray standing up for the truth for many years. During those years he was forced to contend with the defiance of Donald Trump. Wray warned tha tour nation's most serious threat was the white nationalist terrorist organizations:
"However, despite federal concerns about white nationalist extremism, the federal funding to counter that extremism either hasn’t appeared or in some cases has even been rescinded by the Trump administration." [By Jane Coastonjane.coaston@vox.com Apr 4, 2019, 1:30pm EDT]
So, I protest, Wray does not derserve your condemnation. Biden knows what he's doing more than many realize.
Allowing Fox to run one of the debates was actually a pretty forward thinking act. Many of the Fox zombies only watch the one network. The only way to reach them is by appearing on that network. Same rationale for the ad strategy.
But given that Fox has been exposed as a bad player (I mean, worse than anyone thought) by leaking ads to the orange alien's campaign, the next dem who places spots on that toxic network is clearly in need of psychiatric care.
Please, Judd (and Steve Schmidt, and Amee Vanderpool, and everyone else who is shining their lights on the cockroach-infested hole that is Fox "News"), please do not let up on the network or the Murdochs. They are counting on the three-second attention span of the public to forget about this story and move on. We can't let them get away with that.
If corporations are people, and Fox is a bona fide news medium, the death penalty would be warranted. They’ve falsely shouted “fire!” in a theater so free speech doesn’t apply. However, the recent revelations that Fox knowingly promoted the big lie while believing none of it, along with what’s been uncovered here in Judd’s report may stir up some lawsuits, but corporate money and power (actually Murdoch oligarchy) in the current broken political system will prevail. God I’m tired.
LOL! The 7 mo old wanted to converse with you! Love it when they read our energy and try to relate...I remember my first child holding his cloth book upside down looking at me longingly with big eyes. I realized instantly!!!
"Fox News was entrusted with Biden's campaign ads in advance because the Biden campaign trusted it to operate as a legitimate news corporation."
This is why leftists are always so mad at liberals. Overwhelming evidence that Fox News is a right-wing propaganda machine, and a major player in the Democratic party is still treating them as if they are acting in good faith.
The recent revelations should be all the ammunition needed to revoke Fox News' press credentials at the WH or Congress, and to take the first steps toward deportation for Rupert and Lachlan.
for some reason (and perhaps Judd can explain this for us), WH press credentials are handed out by the WH Correspondents' organization.
But we sure should be looking into pulling Fox's transponder license...
Keith Olberman recommends that the FCC "investigate" the 28 or so over the air TV stations that Fox owns.
I second that recommendation! Keith was always loud, but always bright!
In my opinion, Rupert Murdoch should be stripped of his American citizenship and deported back to Australia -- all his businesses should be confiscated by the US government and sold.
If only...
I really wish this would be the downfall of Fox News. My feeling is they will land on their feet like a herd of cats. Justice in America is not known for treating the wealthy and powerful as equal under the law no matter the evidence. If Fox is as corrupt as it sounds and looking at National Enquirer getting a paltry fine for the catch and kill, I have no real feeling Fox will be destroyed by the Civil suit or by those who mind the store.
Trump still walks free and Jan. 6 justice fades daily.
Can't help but believe the Fox propaganda machine will continue to rattle and hum false info by day and night.
Agreed. Never any consequences. And I’m so tired of “bombshell” revelations resulting in nothing.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes GD it YES!!!!!
You sound skeptical that the $187,000 fine really taught them a lesson they won’t soon forget.
Been waiting for half of my long life
Until corporations are severely restricted as to what and how much they can contribute to campaigns, all the campaign finance rules in the world won't keep them from buying elections. Citizens United will be seen as the beginning of the end of our democracy.
Corporations AIN'T people!
Of course corporations are not people. But tell that to John Roberts, whose court bestowed personhood on corporations.
Revoke news credentials and whatever broadcast licensing that they have. Another punishment could be to make them explain that they lie and on air and on their top programs and for a very long period of time.
Fox & Murdoch = Zombies eating the weak brains of Americans.
Illegal actions are just part of the Murdoch business model--unfortunately, they were not ruined in the early 2000s by the phone-hacking scandal in the UK, when they illegally listened to phone messages, including those of a murdered schoolgirl, to benefit their market share.
I remember that disgusting, distasteful piece of "business." R. Murdoch has much to answer for in this world AND the next.
Yes, in that despicable dishonorig of a murdered teenaged girl, they were not penalized that I can remember. James was rebuked, and sent back to Australia; and an outraged reporter almost landed his pie thrown in the face of Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch's wife jumped up to protect him from whipped pie assault! Let's imagine that it IS time for punishment that makes sense: criminal punishment for crimes to overthrow the US Government!
History is always relevant!
He was kicked to the curb in The UK, so I understand. But he is evil to the core in Ametica
Corrupt behavior at FOX News? I am, let me tell you, absolutely shocked.
Get in line buddy. "Shocked" is over there and the line for "Shocked & F-ing AMAZED" is right there.
Gobsmacked, even 😱
Why can’t the Democratic Party sue Fox for damages?
Statute of limitations has a ways to go yet. If Dominion prevails and are able to provide actionable evidence, they could. But how distracting would that be from the party's real business of preparing for two and four year election cycles?
The better approach is to treat the company like a nuclear waste dump and just stay away.
But, no Fox viewers will ever hear, or if they do believe the truth. Financially damaging Fox with boycotts and legal judgements is the only way I can see to stopping their project of destroying America.
https://unfoxmycablebox.com
https://dropfox.com/advertisers/
While likely true of the majority, I have to believe there are still some sentients among Fox viewership. Perhaps not many, but enough to convince the dems that in a potentially close race, not spending money on those blindered few would be a mistake.
But Fox has now shown their full hand and it's filthy.
Agreed. Fox is one corporate entity that begs to be destroyed. It's like having some distant relative live with you (temporarily) and said relative not only has a BUNCH of weapons, but threatens you continually AND refuses to leave.
All of this info that we have seen over the past week confirms with many of us already thought and knew.
However, I do not think anything is going to happen to them. Nothing is going to prompt them to change their own course. They will lose the Dominion case & drag out paying any damages or fines.
But beyond that, I don’t see anything happening to an “entertainment” network. Nothing will displace Tucker or Hannity or any of them. Nothing will stop their viewers from watching, ingesting & praising the punditry. I’ve seen social media battles all week with viewers who are on auto-rage at this point as they mock the ones calling it out.
They don’t have an actual defense against it. But Fox has conditioned such automatic anger they don’t even think about what they are angry about. It’s just “attack” mode.
Here's a quote about FOX from my blog, The 13th Clown (www.13thclown.com), written 10 years ago:
For those readers who sense that I don’t hold FOX News in high regard, I applaud your perceptiveness. As a recovering journalist, I can state, without fear of hyperbole, that FOX News is a source of accurate information in the same sense that Popeye’s is a true Cajun dining experience.
And yet they were right back at it with Christopher Wray speaking as if the Wuhan lab leak theory was proven fact and then calling the virus a bioweapon. Naturally, there was no pushback. The right wing complains about liberal “safe spaces” and all the other so-called “snowflake” behavior of progressives (of which some can be excessive; I’ll grant them that), but it’s just more projection. These snowflakes never appear anywhere but their own safe space being interviewed by these frauds. Their BS narratives then get viewed by millions of people who swallow it whole. Shameless performant I’ve propaganda with no consequences. And now the House gets to use it even more to put forth whatever they want. People need to start protesting outside their offices, but then I’m sure they would whine about cancel culture, whatever that is…
Biden should have chosen a new leader of the FBI. For some reason, Dems always strive to prove their “bipartisan creds” by giving prime cabinet positions and agencies to Conservatives. Biden should have routed as many Trump appointees as he could legally after becoming president. Wray is a Republican shill.
Agreed. Asymmetry all the way. And now the Inquisitors are saying that the FBI Director “confirmed “ the lab leak theory (Rep. Banks during his torture questioning). The outrages never cease. Probably the point.
The news has reported Christopher Wray standing up for the truth for many years. During those years he was forced to contend with the defiance of Donald Trump. Wray warned tha tour nation's most serious threat was the white nationalist terrorist organizations:
"However, despite federal concerns about white nationalist extremism, the federal funding to counter that extremism either hasn’t appeared or in some cases has even been rescinded by the Trump administration." [By Jane Coastonjane.coaston@vox.com Apr 4, 2019, 1:30pm EDT]
So, I protest, Wray does not derserve your condemnation. Biden knows what he's doing more than many realize.
Yes, they don't seem to be able to comprehend "consequences of your own damn actions culture!"
Allowing Fox to run one of the debates was actually a pretty forward thinking act. Many of the Fox zombies only watch the one network. The only way to reach them is by appearing on that network. Same rationale for the ad strategy.
But given that Fox has been exposed as a bad player (I mean, worse than anyone thought) by leaking ads to the orange alien's campaign, the next dem who places spots on that toxic network is clearly in need of psychiatric care.
...but maybe placing ads would still be "a pretty forward thinking act"!
Or they should just keep these revelations in mind and plan accordingly. If a technique works, why stop using it, while it still has legs?
Please, Judd (and Steve Schmidt, and Amee Vanderpool, and everyone else who is shining their lights on the cockroach-infested hole that is Fox "News"), please do not let up on the network or the Murdochs. They are counting on the three-second attention span of the public to forget about this story and move on. We can't let them get away with that.
If corporations are people, and Fox is a bona fide news medium, the death penalty would be warranted. They’ve falsely shouted “fire!” in a theater so free speech doesn’t apply. However, the recent revelations that Fox knowingly promoted the big lie while believing none of it, along with what’s been uncovered here in Judd’s report may stir up some lawsuits, but corporate money and power (actually Murdoch oligarchy) in the current broken political system will prevail. God I’m tired.
Reading my comment, it was a jumble of thought. In my defense, I was tending a 7 mo old at the same time, making lots of silly noises.
LOL! The 7 mo old wanted to converse with you! Love it when they read our energy and try to relate...I remember my first child holding his cloth book upside down looking at me longingly with big eyes. I realized instantly!!!
Hard to collect my grim thoughts with all that happy playful energy tugging at my heart. 🤩
"Fox News was entrusted with Biden's campaign ads in advance because the Biden campaign trusted it to operate as a legitimate news corporation."
This is why leftists are always so mad at liberals. Overwhelming evidence that Fox News is a right-wing propaganda machine, and a major player in the Democratic party is still treating them as if they are acting in good faith.
Why.
That's a solid explanation. It sucks how successfully the right has managed to weaponize human decency.
All across the land…