In one of my other responses, I addressed the fact that people don’t pay attention to and are not interested in boring truth.
The delivery is what matters. That is where Dems fail miserably. The dullest of messages can be delivered with fire and the power that holds attention no matter what it is, if the right communicator is delivering i…
In one of my other responses, I addressed the fact that people don’t pay attention to and are not interested in boring truth.
The delivery is what matters. That is where Dems fail miserably. The dullest of messages can be delivered with fire and the power that holds attention no matter what it is, if the right communicator is delivering it. The GOP has a shit ton of effective communicators.
Yes, they are stupid and yes, they are communicating lies but they are also holding media attention because of the delivery. (No one wants to hear a boring lie either). Dems need a little less arrogance and a lot more fire!
Yes, I read your comments in their entirety which is why I said “to your point about data and …”.
No, they are not stupid. They are grandstanding to draw attention. The media doesn’t cover as much news anymore that isn’t dramatic. Partly because the audience has changed & has the attention span of a gnat. Part of it is the conglomerates that own the news media are either entertainment oriented or cable/communication based and want profit.
Actually many of the GOP ‘communicators’ are quite well educated and know exactly what they are doing. Yes they have a lot of messengers and they are effective. A good portion of their success was gaining larger audiences due to efforts of traditional news to ‘tell both sides’. The messengers were not informative but merely repeating talking points.
Not delivering shallow nonsensical political drama has nothing to do with arrogance.
As I said, “This needs a very different approach.” Meme wars and troll wars convince no one of anything. Plus, they are a facade. One guy had his own GOP troll farm that hired teens. Mike Johnson sank MTG’s anti-Ukraine ship. Her weapons were polling and social media but Congress members went home after the Ukraine vote to find their constituents were not up in arms.
If your demeanor or tone and tactics are the same as your opponent, you lose. Voters who like it choose the original. The rest turn away. The Dems need a different way to be impactful.
They are well educated, and some of them have strategy, but that does not dismiss the fact that they are indeed stupid. They do not know about tons of relevant subjects around politics, such as history, geography, war, strategy, global relations or any of it.
They have smart people behind-the-scenes, telling them what to do and pulling strings which helps them look smart but listen to them directly and their ignorance shines. I maintain that they are stupid.
I’m fine with a different approach; several options can work- all would be better than what Dems do now. (I didn’t suggest memes & troll wars). I suggested the key voices use a much better & energized delivery of the successes, facts & such & to inoculate against the bs (proactively).
Dems need to understand marketing and branding just the way the GOP understands it. They need to get media attention to get the attention of a particular section of Dem & Indie voters. Those voters are not listening to stoic, mature conversations and interviews. Those voters will tune out noise. But a passionately delivered fact-filled charismatic communication style gets the attention.
Unfortunately, we only have one Jeff jackson who is an excellent communicator who has pulled in both sides with his delivery and his tones, but that takes a special kind of person and skill. The rest of the people who do not have that grace need to do a different type of thing and they need to do what works..
What do you suggest would be a better strategy? Open to all ideas!
Never underestimate your opponents. It will come back to haunt you. I’m fairly certain most of the GOP in your opinion ‘stupid’ are acting. They don’t share the same concerns or goals. They denigrate elites and speak like the proverbial hick stereotype but know better. J D Vance has a degree in political science and a law degree from Yale.
I have no idea why you think there is only one Dem who can communicate or one type of Dem who can win over voters. Dems are not a monolith; neither are their candidates.
Our governor won 2 terms in KY which is not a bastion for liberals. He won the first time before being pro-choice was a positive election issue. He won the 2nd time by a larger margin when vetoing an anti-trans bill was supposed to be the kiss of death. He, Sherrod Brown and others have a quiet demeanor and focus on the constituent needs.
In one of my other responses, I addressed the fact that people don’t pay attention to and are not interested in boring truth.
The delivery is what matters. That is where Dems fail miserably. The dullest of messages can be delivered with fire and the power that holds attention no matter what it is, if the right communicator is delivering it. The GOP has a shit ton of effective communicators.
Yes, they are stupid and yes, they are communicating lies but they are also holding media attention because of the delivery. (No one wants to hear a boring lie either). Dems need a little less arrogance and a lot more fire!
Yes, I read your comments in their entirety which is why I said “to your point about data and …”.
No, they are not stupid. They are grandstanding to draw attention. The media doesn’t cover as much news anymore that isn’t dramatic. Partly because the audience has changed & has the attention span of a gnat. Part of it is the conglomerates that own the news media are either entertainment oriented or cable/communication based and want profit.
Actually many of the GOP ‘communicators’ are quite well educated and know exactly what they are doing. Yes they have a lot of messengers and they are effective. A good portion of their success was gaining larger audiences due to efforts of traditional news to ‘tell both sides’. The messengers were not informative but merely repeating talking points.
Not delivering shallow nonsensical political drama has nothing to do with arrogance.
As I said, “This needs a very different approach.” Meme wars and troll wars convince no one of anything. Plus, they are a facade. One guy had his own GOP troll farm that hired teens. Mike Johnson sank MTG’s anti-Ukraine ship. Her weapons were polling and social media but Congress members went home after the Ukraine vote to find their constituents were not up in arms.
If your demeanor or tone and tactics are the same as your opponent, you lose. Voters who like it choose the original. The rest turn away. The Dems need a different way to be impactful.
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They are well educated, and some of them have strategy, but that does not dismiss the fact that they are indeed stupid. They do not know about tons of relevant subjects around politics, such as history, geography, war, strategy, global relations or any of it.
They have smart people behind-the-scenes, telling them what to do and pulling strings which helps them look smart but listen to them directly and their ignorance shines. I maintain that they are stupid.
I’m fine with a different approach; several options can work- all would be better than what Dems do now. (I didn’t suggest memes & troll wars). I suggested the key voices use a much better & energized delivery of the successes, facts & such & to inoculate against the bs (proactively).
Dems need to understand marketing and branding just the way the GOP understands it. They need to get media attention to get the attention of a particular section of Dem & Indie voters. Those voters are not listening to stoic, mature conversations and interviews. Those voters will tune out noise. But a passionately delivered fact-filled charismatic communication style gets the attention.
Unfortunately, we only have one Jeff jackson who is an excellent communicator who has pulled in both sides with his delivery and his tones, but that takes a special kind of person and skill. The rest of the people who do not have that grace need to do a different type of thing and they need to do what works..
What do you suggest would be a better strategy? Open to all ideas!
Never underestimate your opponents. It will come back to haunt you. I’m fairly certain most of the GOP in your opinion ‘stupid’ are acting. They don’t share the same concerns or goals. They denigrate elites and speak like the proverbial hick stereotype but know better. J D Vance has a degree in political science and a law degree from Yale.
I have no idea why you think there is only one Dem who can communicate or one type of Dem who can win over voters. Dems are not a monolith; neither are their candidates.
Our governor won 2 terms in KY which is not a bastion for liberals. He won the first time before being pro-choice was a positive election issue. He won the 2nd time by a larger margin when vetoing an anti-trans bill was supposed to be the kiss of death. He, Sherrod Brown and others have a quiet demeanor and focus on the constituent needs.