I agree with your analysis. The lack of real time fact checking allows both sides to lie and Vance, in particular, took advantage of this, even calling out the moderators for checking his facts like that was a bad thing. If any low information voters were watching/listening, I doubt they would get much useful information from a debate li…
I agree with your analysis. The lack of real time fact checking allows both sides to lie and Vance, in particular, took advantage of this, even calling out the moderators for checking his facts like that was a bad thing. If any low information voters were watching/listening, I doubt they would get much useful information from a debate like this except for an impression that Vance is a smooth operator and Walz was nervous.
The problem with the absence of fact checking isn't just the disinformation, being peddled, it allows the purveyor of the lie to bully and ingratiate himself to the MAGA thugs.
Peter, Walz is my Governor and his expressions went far beyond nervousness. I have never seen him look so angry; I thought his head would explode. If looks could kill….(I wish they could!). I’m sure his answers would have been better if he hadn’t been so incensed by Vance’s lies.
I wish he would have responded to the executing babies jab. The truth. Some babies are born who are known in advance to have only minutes or hours to live. The doctors don’t “execute” them. But they decide not to offer full lifesaving intervention, as it is hopeless. That’s the origin of the story (often repeated by TFFG) of the child being born and “the doctors deciding what to do about the baby.”
Our daughter had anencephaly (no brain development). We only found out a week before she was born (35 years ago). She was not given supports to stay alive. She died 10 hours later surrounded by her extended family. She was buried, has a plaque, and is visited on the anniversary of her birthday. She was not aborted, executed, killed. There were no charges for Murder.
This is the lie that the Trump MAGA’s are trotting out.
This is the level the current Republican Party has descended to.
God bless your family and your precious daughter, and thank you for your clear-eyed telling of this painful event. I fear that in today's world your story would have become much more complicated.
I agree with your analysis. The lack of real time fact checking allows both sides to lie and Vance, in particular, took advantage of this, even calling out the moderators for checking his facts like that was a bad thing. If any low information voters were watching/listening, I doubt they would get much useful information from a debate like this except for an impression that Vance is a smooth operator and Walz was nervous.
The problem with the absence of fact checking isn't just the disinformation, being peddled, it allows the purveyor of the lie to bully and ingratiate himself to the MAGA thugs.
Peter, Walz is my Governor and his expressions went far beyond nervousness. I have never seen him look so angry; I thought his head would explode. If looks could kill….(I wish they could!). I’m sure his answers would have been better if he hadn’t been so incensed by Vance’s lies.
I wish he would have responded to the executing babies jab. The truth. Some babies are born who are known in advance to have only minutes or hours to live. The doctors don’t “execute” them. But they decide not to offer full lifesaving intervention, as it is hopeless. That’s the origin of the story (often repeated by TFFG) of the child being born and “the doctors deciding what to do about the baby.”
Our daughter had anencephaly (no brain development). We only found out a week before she was born (35 years ago). She was not given supports to stay alive. She died 10 hours later surrounded by her extended family. She was buried, has a plaque, and is visited on the anniversary of her birthday. She was not aborted, executed, killed. There were no charges for Murder.
This is the lie that the Trump MAGA’s are trotting out.
This is the level the current Republican Party has descended to.
God bless your family and your precious daughter, and thank you for your clear-eyed telling of this painful event. I fear that in today's world your story would have become much more complicated.
I’m sorry!
unfortunately, I think you're right.