On Tuesday, Adnan Syed was set free. He had been detained since 1999, when he was arrested as a 17-year-old in connection with the killing of Hae Min Lee, his ex-girlfriend. Syed was convicted of first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, and false imprisonment on February 25, 2000. His sentence was life in prison plus 30 years.
It just goes on and on and on. And yes, we can vote and work toward a safer, fairer world. But in the meantime, the same groups of people get run over and brutalized over and over and over. Thank you for giving us important information, Judd. As Rachel Maddow apparently wants us to “gets from her Ultra podcast, it takes us public members to persuade and keep chipping away at the terribly destructive beliefs of the people of so many who continue the harm, like the members of our Supreme Court.
As someone who worked in the courts for over a decade, I am sure many of the innocent people convicted of crimes were advised to take a plea deal. Public defenders use pleas to cut down on their workload and save the state money. Defendants are told that going to trial risks a longer sentence or even, in some cases, the death penalty. And it takes money to pay a good lawyer, while most criminal defendants are poor.
Thank you Judd. You continue to do a stellar job of helping the members of this community stay informed on matters of great importance. You are truly appreciated sir.
Can't let a post about unjust incarceration go by without acknowledging Leonard Peltier. Longest serving political prisoner in the US, framed by the FBI for his involvement at Wounded Knee.
"Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark used blunt words to describe Peltier’s trial and conviction: “There was no evidence that he did it, except fabricated, circumstantial evidence, overwhelmingly misused, concealed and perverted.”
Clark said in a speech in 1997 that Peltier “should have never been in there in the first place — never. While Leonard Peltier is in prison, we all are.” (tinyurl.com/y32wm9ju)" -
Thanks for bringing this up. Apparently the only thing more hazardous in the USA than being Black is being Indigenous. It is a continuing disgrace to this country, our leaders, our law enforcement, and our apathetic citizens, that Peltier is still imprisoned.
Yeah, some grandiose version of a RW unified field theory that is utterly without merit or internal logic, but satisfies his cruel cravings and unusually small heart and mind. He'll claim to be the enlightened one and once he even evoked a supposed son of his named Adam of all things.
See, he has nothing. Now he makes a crude sexual reference. Poor thing can't do much better than scraping the mud-bed. Frank (The Fraud) Lee is a mudskipper! Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Naw. With modern DNA evidence, this woke meme of the social justice tribe isn't really a thing any more. But law enforcement and judicial sensationalism is a hard habit to break when tribal identity demands.
The prosecutors today are not saying Adnan is innocent. They stopped short of exonerating. Instead they’re saying that ‘back in 1999, they didn’t investigate this case thoroughly enough. They relied on evidence we shouldn’t have and They broke the rules when they prosecuted. That was so 1999.
Come on now. You know. Claiming the incarcerated are victims of a corrupt criminal justice system that wrongly prosecuted, tried and sentenced them... that is a common sensationalist and symbolic narrative that the social justice industry uses to get donations. And that is almost non-existent today because of the advances in DNA evidence. Some older cases might need another look. What is interesting about this one is that the perp is likely guilty... it is just the prosecutors made mistakes.
I wonder what the family of the dead victim think about this.
* Many states resist attempts by imprisoned people to get DNA tested.
* Many convictions do not involve DNA evidence.
* Imprisoned people who've been exonerated still have to fight to be released.
* SCOTUS has held that actual proof of innocence is not grounds to stop an execution.
Even if the criminal justice system were run with the best faith in the world, people would be wrongly convicted because human institutions are inherently imperfect. But you know and I know the police & prosecutors’ incentives are to get convictions, not justice, and that public defenders are chronically understaffed and underfunded. And if you think you get rich appealing convictions of the non-wealthy, you're dreaming.
As for Syed, I don't know enough about the case to opine on his guilt, but I know that prosecutorial errors and omissions are material in appealing a conviction. The system doesn't work if there is no penalty for breaking the rules.
You seem awfully confident you understand the way the justice system works in practice when you clearly don't. Just like you think you know what's going on in the heads of what you insist on calling the “woke mob.” 🙄
good article, it's an embarassment and injustice on democracy that this has been happening for hundreds of years in America. It's institutionalized racism, police abuse & incompetence by prosecutors & the entire legal system.
It just goes on and on and on. And yes, we can vote and work toward a safer, fairer world. But in the meantime, the same groups of people get run over and brutalized over and over and over. Thank you for giving us important information, Judd. As Rachel Maddow apparently wants us to “gets from her Ultra podcast, it takes us public members to persuade and keep chipping away at the terribly destructive beliefs of the people of so many who continue the harm, like the members of our Supreme Court.
Excellent report. The Supremes have much to answer for, as does the entire judicial system.
As someone who worked in the courts for over a decade, I am sure many of the innocent people convicted of crimes were advised to take a plea deal. Public defenders use pleas to cut down on their workload and save the state money. Defendants are told that going to trial risks a longer sentence or even, in some cases, the death penalty. And it takes money to pay a good lawyer, while most criminal defendants are poor.
Thank you Judd. You continue to do a stellar job of helping the members of this community stay informed on matters of great importance. You are truly appreciated sir.
Can't let a post about unjust incarceration go by without acknowledging Leonard Peltier. Longest serving political prisoner in the US, framed by the FBI for his involvement at Wounded Knee.
"Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark used blunt words to describe Peltier’s trial and conviction: “There was no evidence that he did it, except fabricated, circumstantial evidence, overwhelmingly misused, concealed and perverted.”
Clark said in a speech in 1997 that Peltier “should have never been in there in the first place — never. While Leonard Peltier is in prison, we all are.” (tinyurl.com/y32wm9ju)" -
https://www.workers.org/2022/10/67128/
Thanks for bringing this up. Apparently the only thing more hazardous in the USA than being Black is being Indigenous. It is a continuing disgrace to this country, our leaders, our law enforcement, and our apathetic citizens, that Peltier is still imprisoned.
Ahhh more racism from the south and the far right supreme court. How perfectly on brand for the right.
A crime has been committed, and someone must pay,
Who actually pays is, unfortunately at times, of almost no consequence.
I'm sure Frank Lee will have some tremendous justification for this.
Yeah, some grandiose version of a RW unified field theory that is utterly without merit or internal logic, but satisfies his cruel cravings and unusually small heart and mind. He'll claim to be the enlightened one and once he even evoked a supposed son of his named Adam of all things.
You two need to get a room for your 69.
At least we don't suffer from cranial-anial inversion.
Ha! Good one.
See, he has nothing. Now he makes a crude sexual reference. Poor thing can't do much better than scraping the mud-bed. Frank (The Fraud) Lee is a mudskipper! Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Naw. With modern DNA evidence, this woke meme of the social justice tribe isn't really a thing any more. But law enforcement and judicial sensationalism is a hard habit to break when tribal identity demands.
The prosecutors today are not saying Adnan is innocent. They stopped short of exonerating. Instead they’re saying that ‘back in 1999, they didn’t investigate this case thoroughly enough. They relied on evidence we shouldn’t have and They broke the rules when they prosecuted. That was so 1999.
Try again without the buzzwords, and maybe make an actual argument. “Woke meme of the social justice tribe” lmao
Come on now. You know. Claiming the incarcerated are victims of a corrupt criminal justice system that wrongly prosecuted, tried and sentenced them... that is a common sensationalist and symbolic narrative that the social justice industry uses to get donations. And that is almost non-existent today because of the advances in DNA evidence. Some older cases might need another look. What is interesting about this one is that the perp is likely guilty... it is just the prosecutors made mistakes.
I wonder what the family of the dead victim think about this.
You're simply incorrect.
* Many states resist attempts by imprisoned people to get DNA tested.
* Many convictions do not involve DNA evidence.
* Imprisoned people who've been exonerated still have to fight to be released.
* SCOTUS has held that actual proof of innocence is not grounds to stop an execution.
Even if the criminal justice system were run with the best faith in the world, people would be wrongly convicted because human institutions are inherently imperfect. But you know and I know the police & prosecutors’ incentives are to get convictions, not justice, and that public defenders are chronically understaffed and underfunded. And if you think you get rich appealing convictions of the non-wealthy, you're dreaming.
As for Syed, I don't know enough about the case to opine on his guilt, but I know that prosecutorial errors and omissions are material in appealing a conviction. The system doesn't work if there is no penalty for breaking the rules.
You seem awfully confident you understand the way the justice system works in practice when you clearly don't. Just like you think you know what's going on in the heads of what you insist on calling the “woke mob.” 🙄
Nice! That's telling the old fraud what the world really works like AND owning his tired, RW, demagogic a**!
how much is the GQP paying you for trolling, "Frank"? 1 ruble ? 2?
Excellent reporting.
good article, it's an embarassment and injustice on democracy that this has been happening for hundreds of years in America. It's institutionalized racism, police abuse & incompetence by prosecutors & the entire legal system.